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United States Immigration
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(08-24-2016, 11:02 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I figured instead of another thread that some may interpret as an attack on Trump, I'd start a general immigration thread. Trump has promised to address immigration this week. He pushed that back to "within the next 2 weeks" and said it will be "soften" but the wall will be built. He said, no amnesty but we'll work with them because we have some "really great people".

Thoughts on what this could look like?

Will a shift on immigration hurt him? Will it help?

Is Ted Cruz right in warning that Trump will not hold strong on his promises?


Edit: Please contribute thoughts on other candidates too. Unfortunately, Hillary seems to have just turtled in and is playing it safe for the next 2.5 months, letting Trump say things and just having everyone forget they can question her too. Not a lot coming from her.

When James Carville ran Bill Clinton's first campaign for President he famously wore a t-shirt that said, "It's the economy, stupid." I think Hillary's campaign manager Robby Mook would be wise to do the same. I don't think illegal immigration, legal immigration, path to citizenship, green cards, visas, or any related topic is on the average American's top 10 list of things they care about. For many it probably doesn't crack the top 50. 

This is indicative of one of Trumps many problems. He is campaigning on an issue that most people simply don't care about. Sure, when he dog whistles or just comes out and denounces (fill in the blank - in this case those raping, job stealing Mexicans) the 14 morons who attend a rally will cheer and the Archie Bunkers at home will nod at their TV and say, "He says what I think," but the fact is these aren't thoughtful people and even if they are I guarantee they weren't thinking much about the Brown Horde teaming over the border before the Trumpeter brought it up an 30 seconds later they aren't thinking about it at all. They have agreed with themselves or their colleagues that, "Yeah buddy, ol' Trump gonna build it and make Mexico pay." This simply indicates their lack of sophistication and not that they have been clamoring for a wall for decades. 

So, Trump makes vague statements - and/or promises to make vague statements at some future date - about an issue of no significance and a few seals bark and slap their flippers. It is sad half of our political system has generated such a pathetic candidate, but I fail to see how him threatening to make more ambiguous remarks in the future about a non-issue would drive anyone to care about him or wonder about a reaction from the Clinton camp. 

So - what it will look like is exactly? What his campaign has looked like to date: a blowhard talking and saying nothing. Will it hurt him? Everything he says hurts him with rational people, and endears him to a certain cross section of Americans that is sadly much larger than I would like it to be. Is Ted Cruz... look, Ted Cruz is somehow a Senator, which may prove there is a God and that he/she has one sick and twisted sense of humor or a death wish for America. Otherwise, Ted Cruz lost - and badly - to Donald Trump. So, the opinions of Ted Cruz are about as relevant as those of the squirrels in your backyard. The man has no brain, no charm, and very limited political capital. 
JOHN ROBERTS: From time to time in the years to come, I hope you will be treated unfairly so that you will come to know the value of justice... I wish you bad luck, again, from time to time so that you will be conscious of the role of chance in life and understand that your success is not completely deserved and that the failure of others is not completely deserved either.





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United States Immigration - BmorePat87 - 08-24-2016, 11:02 PM
RE: United States Immigration - BmorePat87 - 08-24-2016, 11:06 PM
RE: United States Immigration - bfine32 - 08-24-2016, 11:53 PM
RE: United States Immigration - BmorePat87 - 08-25-2016, 12:10 AM
RE: United States Immigration - bfine32 - 08-25-2016, 12:16 AM
RE: United States Immigration - xxlt - 08-25-2016, 08:59 AM
RE: United States Immigration - Benton - 08-25-2016, 10:20 AM
RE: United States Immigration - xxlt - 08-25-2016, 04:53 PM
RE: United States Immigration - GMDino - 08-25-2016, 05:10 PM
RE: United States Immigration - BmorePat87 - 08-25-2016, 05:33 PM
RE: United States Immigration - GMDino - 08-25-2016, 09:09 AM
RE: United States Immigration - GMDino - 08-25-2016, 09:11 AM
RE: United States Immigration - GMDino - 08-25-2016, 09:15 AM
RE: United States Immigration - BmorePat87 - 08-25-2016, 09:28 AM
RE: United States Immigration - bfine32 - 08-25-2016, 09:39 AM
RE: United States Immigration - BmorePat87 - 08-25-2016, 11:28 AM
RE: United States Immigration - GMDino - 08-25-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: United States Immigration - bfine32 - 08-25-2016, 12:46 PM
RE: United States Immigration - BmorePat87 - 08-25-2016, 02:16 PM
RE: United States Immigration - GMDino - 08-25-2016, 10:07 AM
RE: United States Immigration - PhilHos - 08-25-2016, 11:43 AM
RE: United States Immigration - GMDino - 08-25-2016, 11:59 AM
RE: United States Immigration - GMDino - 08-25-2016, 09:41 PM
RE: United States Immigration - fredtoast - 08-26-2016, 05:46 PM
RE: United States Immigration - Belsnickel - 08-26-2016, 07:38 PM

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