United States Immigration

[Mike M (the other one)]

(08-25-2016, 08:59 AM)xxlt Wrote: I don't think illegal immigration, legal immigration, path to citizenship, green cards, visas, or any related topic is on the average American's top 10 list of things they care about. For many it probably doesn't crack the top 50. 

This is indicative of one of Trumps many problems. He is campaigning on an issue that most people simply don't care about.

Speak for yourself, there's more than 1 to get the economy moving.
For example: Limiting H1B's is a good start to putting American's back to work and start rebuilding the middle class.
Agree or disagree?

(08-25-2016, 09:15 AM)GMDino Wrote: And here is Trump's.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform


3) End birthright citizenship seems to be in opposition to Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States

Error Mr Trump Hater,
Changing the laws of US Citizenship being granted by Jus Sanguinis from Jus Soli is not against the Constitution if that is what you are trying to infer here.

(08-25-2016, 09:28 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: I know Mexico is paying for the wall... lol... ok, I'm good now, but will this suggestion of eliminating tax credits to illegal immigrants fund the estimated $400m needed a year to triple ICE? (Assuming they make an average of $40k with benefits). That doesn't account for the cost of housing them, holding a trial, and transporting them while in custody. Will it also cover the nearly $11.6 billion in taxes that illegals pay state and local governments a year or their contribution to payroll taxes that they do not collect on? Conservative estimates suggest illegal immigrants costs the tax payer over $100 billion a year. Opponents suggests this underestimates their contribution to the economy and in taxes. 

I just wonder if increasing our costs will actually be recouped. Is there an actual solution that saves us money? 

I don't expect Trump to build a wall, but I do expect him to recognize what the problems are.


First, do you understand that 93% of all Cocaine in the US comes directly from the US-Mexican border right?


https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/tocta/4.Cocaine.pdf
Today, cocaine is typically transported from Colombia to Mexico or Central America by sea (usually by Colombians) and then onwards by land to the United States and Canada (usually by Mexicans). The US authorities estimate that close to 90% of the cocaine entering the country crosses the US/Mexico land border, most of it entering the state of Texas and, to a lesser extent, California and Arizona.

Now back to the subject you are talking about:

How many more hospitals need to file bankruptcy or close before you realize that Illegals can't be denied medical attention and rarely if ever pay for it?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/illegal-immigrants-account-107-billion-nation-s-health-care-costs-data-show
That's $10.7 Billion annually from 2013 and rising.

That pretty much covers the $11.6 Billion you claim that they contribute via unclaimed taxes.

How much money do we spend annually on anchor babies schooling and medical and housing/food?

I did the math where Anchor Babies drain the Public School systems by $60 Billion+ annually. That's not including the cost of births, nor the SNAP we are giving to the babies family to keep them fed, nor the medical assistance. Rough estimate: $75 Billion in benefits.

Not to mention the amount of problems they put Americans thru with SSN Fraud by messing up people's taxes, retirement benefits, credit, etc.

And don't give me that crap about them doing jobs that American's won't. According to these two sites, American's are already doing the jobs they are doing.

http://cis.org/illegalImmigration-employment
http://www.cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/articles/2009/bigtable2.html

Now we have a big negative cost associated with them being here.

$75 Billion, what could we do with that kinda money on an annual basis?

1st year, build a wall, drastically reduce the amount of illegals and drugs flowing into the US and start fixing infrastructure.
2nd year, rebuild the US infrastructure
3rd year, rebuild the US infrastructure, etc

That's more jobs and money coming back in taxes as well.


So tell me again xxlt how addressing Illegal Immigration won't help the US Economy?