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(09-04-2016, 05:49 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: This is why you can't give grades on drafts until you let the players actually play.  You can't just attach an A+ or C-, or whatever, and act like a draft, or a specific draft pick, is either a success or a failure. If it were as easy as going of Mel Kiper's big board and earning a high grade, which is completely meaningless, then every team would just follow along.

Dawson was supposed to such a great pick, further proof that we are so great at drafting.  But like Chase Coffman and Brandon Ghee before him, he's just another example that even being a third round pick doesn't guarantee you a second season.  I mean, look at what the Browns just moved Gilbert for.

Let these guys actually prove themselves before grading them.  I think the LB we took this year, maybe from BYU (Sorry, I'm out of the loop, was really unfairly ripped by a number of fans.  Let the kid show what he can do.

I think it is impossible not to grade a player, that is what the scouts do ,, as for draft gurus, I understand your point somewhat, but also understand a draft grade can have a few variables that go into it outside of a players playing potential. I think the problem can also stem from sometimes a 1 to 3 round player thinking he has some cushion for the first few years and not play as hard as needed, where a 6th and later round player is fighting as hard as he can from day one to impress and make the team.
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