07-07-2015, 08:35 AM
Ok, as was asked in another thread, lets look at some of the numbers of floor & frequency of QBs vs. each other and compare them to Dalton.....
I will look at the 2013 & 2014 seasons and post # of sub 70 games & a < X rounded +/- to the 10 for the QBR for those games so we can see how low the player is capable of dipping and how often. I will also post their playoff (PO) QBR if applicable. Andy Dalton is listed at the top of the list in larger font & bold so it is easy to reference.
Combining 2013 & 1014 seasons
Andy Dalton: 4 <70, 5 <60, 0 <50, 1 <10 ; (PO) 67, 63.4
Luck - 3 <70 , 2 <60, 1 <50, 0 <40 ; (PO) 98.7, 53, 104, 76.2, 23 (NOTE: The low PO scores were both losses. His floor QBR and frequency has improved each season.)
Tannehill - 1 <70 , 1 <60, 2 <50 , 0 <40 ; (NO PO) Steadily improved his floor to 0 games under 70 in 2014.
Wilson - 1 < 70, 1 <60, 3 <50, 0 <40 ; (PO) 67.6, 104.6, 123.1, 149.2, 44.3, 110.6
Tom Brady - 4 <70, 3 <60, 0 <50 ; (PO) 99.3, 100.4, 101.1, 78.4, 93.9 (NOTE: a lot of Tom's games in the 70s were within a point or two or even .1 of points from being in the next category up)
Alex Smith - 2 <70, 2 <60, 1 <50 ; (PO) 119.7
What does the above show?
- How bad and how often other QB's reach their bad vs Andy Dalton's bad and frequency of bad.
- I think it shows that Andy Dalton's floor hovers in the 50's. The other QBs reached their floor and/or have a floor as low as Dalton's with less frequency as well. I am throwing out the game where AD got a 2.
- In the Playoffs, Dalton barely played above his regular season floor or around his floor's average. The other QBs had some spectacular games and an occasional floor game.
What does it NOT show?
- Timing of good/bad plays to win or lose games, YAC, timing, etc. ESPN's Total QBR takes a lot of these things and more into account but it is controversial so I didn't include it. If you look at that number, Dalton has wild swings in rating with highs and rock bottom lows.
- Time of season (with the exception of playoffs)
- Injuries (all teams have them)
- Break down of progression year by year.
I did NOT include guys who played less than a full 16 games as that would not be fair to Andy.
I will look at the 2013 & 2014 seasons and post # of sub 70 games & a < X rounded +/- to the 10 for the QBR for those games so we can see how low the player is capable of dipping and how often. I will also post their playoff (PO) QBR if applicable. Andy Dalton is listed at the top of the list in larger font & bold so it is easy to reference.
Combining 2013 & 1014 seasons
Andy Dalton: 4 <70, 5 <60, 0 <50, 1 <10 ; (PO) 67, 63.4
Luck - 3 <70 , 2 <60, 1 <50, 0 <40 ; (PO) 98.7, 53, 104, 76.2, 23 (NOTE: The low PO scores were both losses. His floor QBR and frequency has improved each season.)
Tannehill - 1 <70 , 1 <60, 2 <50 , 0 <40 ; (NO PO) Steadily improved his floor to 0 games under 70 in 2014.
Wilson - 1 < 70, 1 <60, 3 <50, 0 <40 ; (PO) 67.6, 104.6, 123.1, 149.2, 44.3, 110.6
Tom Brady - 4 <70, 3 <60, 0 <50 ; (PO) 99.3, 100.4, 101.1, 78.4, 93.9 (NOTE: a lot of Tom's games in the 70s were within a point or two or even .1 of points from being in the next category up)
Alex Smith - 2 <70, 2 <60, 1 <50 ; (PO) 119.7
What does the above show?
- How bad and how often other QB's reach their bad vs Andy Dalton's bad and frequency of bad.
- I think it shows that Andy Dalton's floor hovers in the 50's. The other QBs reached their floor and/or have a floor as low as Dalton's with less frequency as well. I am throwing out the game where AD got a 2.
- In the Playoffs, Dalton barely played above his regular season floor or around his floor's average. The other QBs had some spectacular games and an occasional floor game.
What does it NOT show?
- Timing of good/bad plays to win or lose games, YAC, timing, etc. ESPN's Total QBR takes a lot of these things and more into account but it is controversial so I didn't include it. If you look at that number, Dalton has wild swings in rating with highs and rock bottom lows.
- Time of season (with the exception of playoffs)
- Injuries (all teams have them)
- Break down of progression year by year.
I did NOT include guys who played less than a full 16 games as that would not be fair to Andy.
