Sobriety check points

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(09-10-2016, 03:55 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: It's what the people want, allegedly.

My main problem with sobriety checkpoints is that it's usually advertised.  So you only catch the really dumb or uniformed.  It's a placebo effect.

I hear this a lot that it's "advertised".   Where?  It's not on the TV or radio.  And I don't check the internet for check points before I go out, nor should I have to IMO.

(09-10-2016, 08:31 AM)GMDino Wrote: Just do what the police tell you to do and you won't have a problem.  If you do have a problem just let the courts handle it.

I had no problem, but I'm a strait white male.

(09-10-2016, 09:00 AM)6andcounting Wrote: Somehow they're have been ruled legal as long as they're in some small way advertised before they are done. This nonsensical legal loophole still doesn't address the fact that people are being stopped at random and detained without first establishing reasonable suspicious of a crime.

And that is exactly my problem with it.

(09-10-2016, 10:31 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: He followed your advice and it worked!



I get your point, but you generally aren't "detained" unless you exhibit behavior that made for probable cause.


Eh, it's not the same thing but you do highlight the problem with proactive policing.  It's a bit of a double edged sword.  On one hand citizens complain that the police don't prevent crime they just respond to it.  On the other hand the same citizens will complain if you do something proactive.  It's a fine line to walk.  These checkpoints are generally set up on major roadways at times that are known for higher than average rates of DUI.  Your analogy doesn't quite hold up as you don't need a license to walk or insurance.  But, again, I concede that people have a reason for concern.

The area I went through is Mariemont it is a well off part of Cincinnati.  Lot's of rich white folk, low crime, and for some reason a heavy police presence.  They are pretty notorious for being petty about things like going 1 or 2 miles over the speed limit.  I generally don't like to go through there but they have a movie theatre that I like because it shows a lot of smaller lesser known indie films.  Anyway my point is there is not a lot of crime there and this is not a case of Mariemont cops being proactive.  This is a case of Mariemont cops being Mariemont cops.

(09-10-2016, 10:41 AM)xxlt Wrote: But in reality we do not.

As I learned last night.

(09-10-2016, 11:00 AM)PhilHos Wrote: Blame the idiots that still drink and drive.  I agree they can be a nuisance and it's stupid to announce when you're doing them but until people stop drinking and driving and killing others than there's going to be a need for SOME kind of prevention program.

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Meh...I have a couple of beers after work almost nightly.  I'm not drunk when I leave the bar, but an over zealous cop could absolutely ruin my life if he chose to.  And I doubt these check points really prevent these tragedies.

(09-10-2016, 11:50 AM)bfine32 Wrote: Driving on public roads is a privilege that has to be earned; it is not a right.

If you don't want to be subject to sobriety checks take the bus. If you are stopped you still have protection from illegal search.

And I earned it when I got my license.  That doesn't give the police the right to stop me for no reason what so ever.