If Trumps wins, who to blame?

[Belsnickel]

(09-18-2016, 09:02 AM)McC Wrote: You say civil service, unholy pursuit of power.  Agree to disagree.  And, as far as civil service goes, she has been miserably bad at it.  It's all moot anyway.  She won't live though four years of service.

And when one seeks office to promote their own agenda, that pretty much removes the whole altruistic line of BS from the equation.  The only person Hillary has ever served is herself.   She's a politician.  That's what they all do. To think otherwise is just blind naivete.

I would also submit that her service will be to the big money behind her.  Seven hundred million is a pretty big IOU.

Bad at it or not, the Clintons have had a life of civil service. It is true that politicians go into it with an agenda, every one of them does. That agenda is usually what they think will be best for the country, though. You may not agree with it but that is the way it typically goes. They do some favors for people and corporations along the way that are typically ignoring the best interests of the people, but every single politician I have ever met has had an overall agenda regarding what they felt was the best for the people. Just what I have learned in my experience working in government and being an appointed official.

I can say that Trump is doing what he is doing because he thinks it is right for the country, even though I disagree with him on almost everything (at least based on his most recent positions). I disagree with Clinton on many things, with Johnson, with Stein, all of them. I don't fully agree with any of them but I can say with 100%certainty that they are doing it and they hold the positions they do because they believe it is what's best for the people.

(09-18-2016, 09:07 AM)McC Wrote: Gotta come back to this.  Can't believe you're using the stock Dem. answer of "Trump is worse."  You know, the only defense the Dem's have against any criticism aimed at The Beast?

And seriously?  No one gets rich in office?  Did you just arrive on planet Earth?

First, I'm not a Democrat. Second, you only attack one side, you say Clinton is not altruistic. Who are you voting for? If it is Trump, which IIRC it is, then of course I will point out the flaw in your logic when using the lack of altruism against Clinton when you side with Trump.

And no, they don't get rich in office. Most politicians already have money before getting there by inheriting or being in law or business. Then, when they leave office, that is when the dough starts flowing in by being on boards, doing speaking engagements, etc. Being a politician is more of an investment in future earnings.