If Trumps wins, who to blame?

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(09-18-2016, 09:50 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Bad at it or not, the Clintons have had a life of civil service. It is true that politicians go into it with an agenda, every one of them does. That agenda is usually what they think will be best for the country, though. You may not agree with it but that is the way it typically goes. They do some favors for people and corporations along the way that are typically ignoring the best interests of the people, but every single politician I have ever met has had an overall agenda regarding what they felt was the best for the people. Just what I have learned in my experience working in government and being an appointed official.

I can say that Trump is doing what he is doing because he thinks it is right for the country, even though I disagree with him on almost everything (at least based on his most recent positions). I disagree with Clinton on many things, with Johnson, with Stein, all of them. I don't fully agree with any of them but I can say with 100%certainty that they are doing it and they hold the positions they do because they believe it is what's best for the people.


First, I'm not a Democrat. Second, you only attack one side, you say Clinton is not altruistic. Who are you voting for? If it is Trump, which IIRC it is, then of course I will point out the flaw in your logic when using the lack of altruism against Clinton when you side with Trump.

And no, they don't get rich in office. Most politicians already have money before getting there by inheriting or being in law or business. Then, when they leave office, that is when the dough starts flowing in by being on boards, doing speaking engagements, etc. Being a politician is more of an investment in future earnings.

i just can't agree with that.  I will agree that there might be a scant few who are in it for the right reasons.  What happens to those few?  One of two things.  They actually get into the  biz, (and yes, it is a biz) and are repulsed by it and run like hell or they are swallowed up by it.

They have created a system where money and special interests rule, a system that removes/insulates them from any real public scrutiny or accountability.  They operate unencumbered by what is best for the country.

Get rich in office, get rich later, because you were in office, same thing.  It's not just the money.  It's just as much about the power.   Altruism is really a very small part of the equation.  If they cared about the country, would both sides spend so much time shooting down the other side's agenda? 

They do care about some things--blocking the other side, staying in office, living the high life, keeping all their bad shit well hidden, partying like it's 1999.