09-21-2016, 05:27 PM
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: There is lots of misconceptions in your post.
And there are a lot of flat out untruths in your post
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Trump has stated many times, he has no problems with Immigrants as long as they come here thru the front door.
This is not true. One of the main points of Trumps immigration policy is to greatly reduce LEGAL immigration.
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: - Referring to a core culture threatened by inferior cultures (e.g. being anti-Islamic)
It's not about being Anti-Islamic, it's about Islamic being anti-western.
Not sure where you are going with this one, Islam considers all other cultures to be inferior, so it's only natural that other cultures feel threatened when you see the heads of other people getting chopped off for no real reason, or women being stoned, or daughters being killed for being raped by their fathers/brothers etc to keep the Family Honor intact. Men own the women/children, LGBT's getting tossed off the highest roofs. The majority of their culture is the opposite of the Western Culture, yet we are not supposed to feel threatened by people that keep promising to kill us and send our culture backwards (we already put child labors laws up and still trying to make women equal to men)? And they are not just threats to our Western Nations, some have been carried out already.
This just is not true. you have been duped by Trump into believing that ALL Muslims are radical when in fact there are millions of Muslims already living peacefull in the United States that are no threat at all. Your beliefs on Islam are just as misguided as the people who nthink ALL Christians are the same as the KKK or Westboro Church group.
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: - Operating with people's fear (that's not just "my take", people's emotions are addressed, not their brains. Things he says are mainly fact-free. See what I said above.)
So it's our imagination that the FBI statistics back up what Trump said about Illegals?
Yes it is just your imagination because crime stats show that illegal immigrants are no more likely to be criminals than US citizens.
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: - Emphasizing Law and Order (threats are everywhere, only I can keep the country safe)
Might have something here, but wasn't there just another Riot last night? How about this past weekend? Bombs in NYC? Stabbings in Minnesota? Now we do have Laws and Order, but not all laws are followed. Legal Citizen Safety should not be a Politicians concern?
Yes it should be a concern, but there is zero evidence that Trump could do anything to make anyone safer. In fact Trump has been known to encourage his followers to use violence to solve situations instead of peaceful means.
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: - Presenting themselves as anti-establishment, e.g. presenting them and their voters "victim" of the "establishment's opinion-making" when facing critizism
I'll give you half of this one. He is somewhat anti-establishment. He knows how the game works and has admitted to playing it when it suited him. Can you provide me some examples of the 2nd half of your comments?
His claims that the only way he can lose the election is if it is rigged. His claim that Hillary and Obama were the founders of ISIS. His claim that Hillary is a criminal protected by the establishment. I could go on and on.
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: - Being anti-intellectual
Are you referring to Trump being stupid? Or his followers or both?
Just because someone is Anti-Intellectual doesn't mean that they are incapable of making solid decisions. I would judge a leader more on their ability to Listen to all parties and find a middle ground. Some of the smartest people in the world have made some of the dumbest decisions. Why? Because they are incapable of listening to others.
Trump has never ever claimed he would listen and find middle ground. In fact he has built his entire campaign over doing the opposite. He is going to force Mexico to pay for a wall. He is going to nullify trade agreements and force other countries to give us better deals.
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: - Offering wild, radical promises (See: Mexico paying for a giant wall)
Yea a little crazy sounding, but not out there. He'll get it figured out someway. He's already come up with a couple of ways to get it from them.
No he hasn't. There is no way possible to get even a small fraction of the cost of the wall he proposes from increased fees and withholding private fund tranfers. It is impossible. It just won't work.
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: - A strange love for Putin
I don't care much for him, but he does get Shit done. He also doesn't apologize nor insult his fellow country men by calling them deplorable or lazy.
What has Putin gotten done? Russia's oil dependent economy is in crisis and he has entangled himself in the Syrian quagmire.
And Putin not only insults his fellow countrymen he also murders them or throws them in prison for disagreeing with him. And he has sworn to "cleanse" his country of homosexuals.
You opinion of Putin is completely delusional.
(09-21-2016, 04:24 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: - The dividing of society
I would say the media has caused this more so than Trump.
