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Right-wing populism.
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(09-21-2016, 05:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: And there are a lot of flat out untruths in your post



This is not true.  One of the main points of Trumps immigration policy is to greatly reduce LEGAL immigration.

He's putting a hold on Muslim Immigration yes, but that does not mean that they will never be allowed into the US, he just wants them vetted more so that we can make damn sure they have no ties to terrorist groups.

He also wants to fix the "anchor baby" problem going forward. Being born here won't make you an automatic USC, one of your parents has to be a USC.

He's also putting a requirement on H-1B Visas (they are work related Visas, not designed as a path to become a USC) that you have to hire an American first. I don't know why any USC would be against this. It's hurting our graduates (men, women and minorities) and people in STEM fields that are trying to get a job.

If what I have said is incorrect, then please post a link showing me otherwise of if I forgot something please post a link for that as well. You repeat the leftist crap too much for me to take you at face value anymore.

(09-21-2016, 05:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: This just is not true.  you have been duped by Trump into believing that ALL Muslims are radical when in fact there are millions of Muslims already living peacefull in the United States that are no threat at all.  Your beliefs on Islam are just as misguided as the people who nthink ALL Christians are the same as the KKK or Westboro Church group.

So it's my imagination seeing ISIS beheading people online?

I already know that there is some peaceful Muslims that are already here, and there's some that are already here that aren't so peaceful and are trying to bring their culture here which is the opposite of ours. So instead of taking care of what we have here already, you want to keep adding more to the equation?

No I'm not in that same group, you just want to paint me in that group.

(09-21-2016, 05:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yes it is just your imagination because crime stats show that illegal immigrants are no more likely to be criminals than US citizens.

Oh Jeez Louise.
1 being here undocumented is illegal.
2 it's illegal for them to have a job.
3 if they use a USC SSN to get a job, they are committing fraud (another law broken).
4. 94% of all Cocaine comes over the Texas-Mexico border. Anyone that brings it, is breaking the law, but we do a poor job of catching them. Coke isn't the only thing they contribute to, prostitution, human trafficking, kidnappings and so forth. Gangs are a major source of those laws being busted.


(09-21-2016, 05:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yes it should be a concern, but there is zero evidence that Trump could do anything to make anyone safer.  In fact Trump has been known to encourage his followers to use violence to solve situations instead of peaceful means.

A wall is a good start for making people feel safer.
Enforcing existing laws is another one.

(09-21-2016, 05:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: His claims that the only way he can lose the election is if it is rigged.  His claim that Hillary and Obama were the founders of ISIS. His claim that Hillary is a criminal protected by the establishment.  I could go on and on.

This is one area where you might have something, but most of Trumps statements in here are more exaggerated than anything else.
Well, emails so far support that it is rigged.

They might not be the founders of ISIS, but they let the "JV" team grow instead of taking it out when they had the chance.

She is, other military people that have committed less offenses with secure information have been sentenced to jail for their actions.

(09-21-2016, 05:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Trump has never ever claimed he would listen and find middle ground.  In fact he has built his entire campaign over doing the opposite.  He is going to force Mexico to pay for a wall.  He is going to nullify trade agreements and force other countries to give us better deals.

Why does he have to "claim" that? He's a business man, it's what he does for a living. That's what getting the best deal is all about. He's not going to rape the other countries. That's just leftist rhetoric that you are spewing.

(09-21-2016, 05:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No he hasn't.  There is no way possible to get even a small fraction of the cost of the wall he proposes from increased fees and withholding private fund tranfers.  It is impossible.  It just won't work.

Withholding transfers is not the best move, but charging a 10-15-20% tax on all money leaving the country will easily get that money in less than a year and keep a steady supply of money coming in to keep up maintenance and pay the salaries of the people guarding the wall.

$225B leaves the US annually.  Did I hear you asking for it to be raised by 10 more feet?

(09-21-2016, 05:27 PM)fredtoast Wrote: What has Putin gotten done?  Russia's oil dependent economy is in crisis and he has entangled himself in the Syrian quagmire.


And Putin not only insults his fellow countrymen he also murders them or throws them in prison for disagreeing with him. And he has sworn to "cleanse" his country of homosexuals. 
You opinion of Putin is completely delusional. 

Uhm he's tangled in the Syrian quagmire because he wants the oil that they have.
He's former KGB, of course he's not going to like people talking about him. Where has he insulted the People of Russia? Did he ever call them lazy or deplorable? I'm not talking specific people, but his fellow country men.

His laws about LGBT is no PDA, especially in front of children, I am probably wrong there, I didn't have enough time to investigate it. But I did notice the words you used came from Leftist Media News.
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Right-wing populism. - hollodero - 09-20-2016, 02:05 PM
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