Right-wing populism.

[Mike M (the other one)]

(09-21-2016, 10:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: So it is my imagination seeing a white kid kill 9 people in a Charleston Church?  The point you are missing is that if we want to protect ourselves from radicals we have to concentrate on radicals instead of a religion.  Neo Nazi's, white supremacists, and sovereign citizens pose just as big of a terror threat in the United States as Muslim extremists. But people like you don't would freak out if we suddenly said we have to monitor all white people because they are such a danger to our society.

*sighs
Which is why we need to improve the immigration vetting. Weed out the ones that have ties/connections to Radicals so we can focus on our own home grown problems.

(09-21-2016, 10:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Oh Jeez Louise, 

No one was talking about non-violent crimes.  Trump was squealing about rapists and murders, not people in violation of regulation that does not even carry a criminal penalty.  

The fact is that Mexican immigrants are no more likely to be involved in "criminal" (not illegal) behavior than US citizens.  

You're so following the left wing rhetoric it's sad.

"Mexican Immigrants", nice try to change the argument. By you stating it like that, you get to include Legal and non-Legal immigrants under 1 umbrella. I am very aware the people that come here Legally, are going to do their best to not break the laws so they can become USC's, but Trump never said anything about people who come here Legally did he? And now it's all about non-violent crimes only, when in Trump's initial statement included all crimes.

Trump also never said that All Mexicans are Rapists. He was talking about illegal immigrants. I despise how the media leaves out this line: "They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people." and focus only on the Rapist part.

The point is that with out a wall, we are getting everyone, good and bad coming over. With a wall it is much harder for the bad to get thru.

Let's take a look at how the media has mis-represented his original quote:

The New York Times: “Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.”

Time Magazine: “Trump’s comment that Mexican immigrants are ‘rapists.’”
Associated Press: “Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals”
CBS News: “Trump defends calling Mexican immigrants ‘rapists.’”
L.A. Times: “describing Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
Fortune: “in a speech branding Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.”
Hollywood Reporter: “he referred to Mexican immigrants as ‘rapists.’”
Huffington Post: “He called Latino immigrants ‘criminals’ and ‘rapists.’”
The Washington Post: “He referred to Mexicans as “rapists.”

Just like all of these leftist Websites, you changed my original comment from Illegals to immigrants and branded them all as Rapists in order to get your "Liar Liar pants on fire" review. The fact is that he said we are getting illegal Immigrants that: bring Drugs, Commit Crime (he didn't specify violent vs non-violent), some are Rapists, some are good people. No where does he refer to legal immigrants in any way.

(09-21-2016, 10:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote:  No they don't.  What emails say anything about the genertal election being rigged against Trump.  You must have your head buried pretty deep in the right wing echo chamber to make a claim like this.

Opps my bad, that batch hasn't been released yet.

(09-21-2016, 10:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No you are really looking silly.  For his entire life Trump has bragged about how he is capable of eliminating his competition and taking everything for himself.  He is all about "winning".  He has never once claimed that he was interested in compromise or seeking the "middle ground".

Obviously you suffer from lack of reading apprehension.
"But my plan is, renegotiate NAFTA, make it either good or get out of NAFTA. I want to bring our jobs back, I want to make it very hard for companies to leave our country, because they're fleeing."

He's talking about reworking lopsided deals and making them fairer to us, while keeping them fair to our partners as well.

(09-21-2016, 10:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Where did you get these numbers?  What do you mean by money "Leaving the UNited States".  There are less than 5 million Mexican workers in the United States and I can guarantee you that they are not all sending $50K a year back to Mexico.  And how do you know what money is leaving the United States.  If a Mexican worker buys a money order to mail back home how do you tax that?

Leaving the US is exactly what it means. Money that is being sent to other countries (not just Mexico) as remittances. Last year 225B was sent and this does not include Corporations that are doing it, which I would tax even higher. Google it yourself.

(09-21-2016, 10:55 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Um you did not answer my question.  "What has Putin gotten done?"



And who cares if he calls some Russians lazy?  Who even cares.  the fact is he arrests people who disagree with him.  Do you really think that calling some people lazy is worse than throwing people in jail for disagreeing with him?  I don't even understand what type of a point you are trying to make here.

In fact no one has insulted more fellow American citizens than Donald Trump.  He does insults better than anyone.  So why do you have some love of Putin for not calling Russins "lazy"?

The point about calling his countrymen lazy is what Obama has said about Americans. Other than that, I don't really give a flip about Putin. Trump insulting American's? Are you sure it's no the media twisting it to make it into an insult?
Obama calling American's Lazy and arrogant, Hillary calling Trump supporters deplorables.
What has Trump said that insults a big group of Americans and not an Individual?