10-06-2016, 10:42 PM
(10-06-2016, 07:58 PM)bfine32 Wrote: This is just silly. Gresh was very good for us. He never had fewer than 45 receptions in any season he was here and never missed more than 2 games in a season. Matter fact Gresh in only 1 of 3 TEs in the history of the NFL to have at least 50 catches in each of his first 3 seasons.
Dude showed up in playoff games when the rest of the team did not. Gresh was far from a disappointment,
Gresh was a first round pick taken before Gronk, he was not as bad as many made him out to be but he has
been far from a knock it out of the park pick. Not saying he is a bad player but 1st round 1st pick taken out of
the draft, hence aging disappointment especially after he left here..
(10-06-2016, 08:17 PM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: Only part I disagree with on Gresh. Really liked him.
But the 2012 playoffs he was a big reason why we lost. But in 2013 he actually had a good game that often gets over-looked.
True, i agree with this..
(10-06-2016, 08:18 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I'd like to point out you're gushing over a guy who has 14 career catches in 21 games.
You also had to make mention of his health 3 times in 5 sentences.
....just sayin....
Gushing?
Kroft has played 21 games eh? How many did he start and play with Dalton i may ask?
How many games was he the #1 TE in those 21 games?
Very vague.
...Just sayin....
(10-06-2016, 09:01 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: True, TE's block more in AZ, but that doesn't explain why a supposedly still gifted pass catcher like Gresh has been outproduced by a UFA. Plus why would a supposedly still talented TE sign with a team where he'd be stuck in a time share with said UFA in an offense that limits his pass catching opportunities? After all, pass catching - not blocking alone - is where TE's earn the big bucks. He'd be limiting his future earning potential. It doesn't jive with me.
It seems more likely that AZ was one of the only teams that was interested after his surgery, and that Gresham losing a step is why the UFA is outproducing him.
I wouldn't even say Gresh was a moderately important player for them. Blocking TE's are easier to stumble on and that's mostly what he's asked to do. Fells has doubled Gresh's catches this year. Fells. A UFA.
I'm not "sure" Gresh wouldn't go 500 and 5 this year for the Bengals, but I'd certainly bet against it. Bfine brought up his age (28) as if it's unheard of for a TE to fall off before 30. Look at Brandon Pettigrew (very similar player). Look at Chris Cooley, Kellen Winslow and Vernon Davis, etc etc. It's a rough position.
I wouldn't be totally opposed to having Gresh now, if it were an option, but at this point, I don't think he'd bring THAT much more than the young guys. So we may as well let them get their experience in.
Great point on how TE's just don't last as long as they used to Shake.
This is still a moot point, we won't be bringing Gresh back anyways.
