07-12-2015, 12:35 PM
(07-12-2015, 12:08 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I think you're going a little overboard here. Gabbert and Locker are busts of the highest order who can't even stay on the field.
Perhaps, but I'm not so sure they would have been as big of busts here. And I think Ponder in particular would look very similar to Andy and vice versa, had their situations been reversed. If you look at the talent around Andy compared to what guys like them had to work with, it's night and day. Maybe Andy isn't quite as bad but I think he's forgotten in those situations just as those guys are now.
Fwiw, I do kinda try do this with every QB. Remove the situation that surrounds him. Plug in different QB's in different teams. You take Brees off the Saints and he's still pretty much going to be Drew Brees anywhere. Peyton Manning and Brady are going to win games anywhere. Heck, take even a guy like Flacco, he might see increases with a deeper and more talented corp. But I don't think Andy really gets much better anywhere else. Not a ton at least. I think this is as pretty much as good as it's going to get. Whereas you put him on a bad team, I think the wheels completely come off. I don't think Andy could even match what Carr did last year in Oakland.
The best example I always can come up with is a healthy Sam Bradford. Hypothetically, you take a healthy Bradford (which he is now) and put him on one of the Andy lead teams of the last few years and you put Andy on one of the Bradford lead Rams teams, and what do you get? Because most rankings have these guys usually pretty equal (fair enough). But I think a guy like Bradford flourishes with more talent, and more than what Andy has done here. And I think Andy just because another former NFL starter after a few years on the Rams.
I'm not so sure if Andy hit the open market that he'd be a starter in two seasons. And he still might not here. His talent level is just too similar to that of the Kyle Orton's and Chad Henne's of the world. (Is he really much better than these two from a talent standpoint?) Outisde of this town, teams will draft and continue to look to upgrade over veterans like this. And I think Andy is very close to these types of names.
