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Hillary Must Lose
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(10-14-2016, 12:54 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: My dad has gotten involved in some state politics and often rails against liberal gerrymandering in Maryland. My dad's colleagues and acquaintances, often Democrats, question why they shouldn't do it if red states do. That's part of the inherent problem with gerrymandering. Unless there's an amendment, as you suggested, it won't stop, because it needs to end nationwide. 

Yeah, much like the electoral process to make the move away from first past the post, it's either state-by-state or an amendment. The big question is: which is more likely to happen?

(10-14-2016, 12:54 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: For all of the criticism establishment candidates get, they're no more "evil" than a non establishment candidate. The only difference is they can get stuff done. They aren't naive to the process. How often have we seen the anti establishment candidate become the thing they hated? It's because you need to make concessions. The culture of politics will always be what it is, but we can work to send less extreme candidates to Washington. 

This is exactly right. People who go into Washington all dead set on being the anti-politician will either go into the fold or be chewed up and spit out. People need to stop kidding ourselves, politicians are necessary. They understand the system, they get things done. The framers of our Constitution weren't a bunch of divinely inspired common folk, they were politicians. It's the way government works, has always worked, and will always work.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR





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Hillary Must Lose - PhilHos - 10-14-2016, 08:20 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - BmorePat87 - 10-14-2016, 09:15 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - GMDino - 10-16-2016, 12:34 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - Belsnickel - 10-14-2016, 09:31 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - fredtoast - 10-14-2016, 11:37 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - treee - 10-14-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - BmorePat87 - 10-14-2016, 12:54 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - Belsnickel - 10-14-2016, 11:44 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - fredtoast - 10-14-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - treee - 10-14-2016, 11:48 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - Belsnickel - 10-14-2016, 11:53 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - treee - 10-14-2016, 11:54 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - bfine32 - 10-14-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - fredtoast - 10-14-2016, 12:42 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - bfine32 - 10-14-2016, 12:58 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - BmorePat87 - 10-14-2016, 12:46 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - Belsnickel - 10-14-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - Belsnickel - 10-14-2016, 12:59 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - JustWinBaby - 11-11-2016, 04:08 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - McC - 11-10-2016, 08:30 AM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - BengalHawk62 - 11-10-2016, 01:42 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - StoneTheCrow - 11-10-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - BengalHawk62 - 11-10-2016, 02:35 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - SunsetBengal - 11-10-2016, 09:12 PM
RE: Hillary Must Lose - SunsetBengal - 11-10-2016, 09:14 PM

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