Cowherd rips Tomlin

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(10-27-2016, 08:00 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Eli Manning's career passer rating is 83. That's lower than Flacco, Tannehil, Alex Smith, Dalton and Matt Schuab. Eli's career completion percentage is 59.6%. That's not good enough to beat Ryan Fitzpatrick, but it does give him the 0.2% edge over Chad Henne and a 0.1% edge over Josh McCown. Stellar. He is tied for 6th all-time in one stat, but that's most pick 6's thrown.

Then there is Mr. "Winner of 4 playoff games" Rivers. He's one pick 6 away from tying Eli. Woot Woot!

Peyton will be in the HOF while Ben is still playing. Brady and Brees will get in before Ben is even eligible. Rivers is 8 playoff wins away from even getting considered. At this point, Eli only has his 2 Super Bowl wins+ MVPs putting him in the conversation. Ben is a first round lock regardless of Rodgers' eligibility.

Yeah, but he played in NY, is Peyton Manning's brother, and won two SB. I honestly don't think he's a particularly great QB, but a lot of people like him, he beat Brady twice in the SB, and has one of the more iconic pass/catches in SB history. He also surprisingly has the same 4 PB, 0 2nd AP, 0 1st AP as Ben.

If you read my post, I already said I listed Rivers behind Ben for the same playoff reason you mentioned. I just said they were in competition with each other.

I just don't see a QB with 4 Pro Bowls, 0 2nd Team All-Pro, 0 1st Team All-Pro in 13 years getting into the HoF. If you can't be the best of your time, you can't be the best of all time, which is what HoF are supposed to be among. It's not even a Bengals/Steelers thing for me. If he had a Peyton-like ending to his career where he has a couple monster stat seasons, add a couple 1st Team All-Pros, add an MVP, and then sure. Ben probably gets in second if not first ballot.

He just lacks accolades right now and almost certainly won't stay healthy enough to play into his late 30s. By the time he becomes eligible say in 8 years, players like Russell Wilson and company will have ~13 years under their belt in a continually more passing friendly league.

Ben found himself sandwiched in between some all time greats, and the up and coming passing friendly generation, while also finding himself with various health issues.