11-12-2016, 09:05 PM
(11-12-2016, 08:55 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: You hit on the points about turning our backs to voters that I was referring to previously. Michigan is a prime example, in that HRC didn't even go there in the few weeks running up to the election. She took Michigan for granted, same as she did Wisconsin and likely Pennsylvania. Beyond that, to a point made by Dill, the Democrats did little to nothing about refuting the claims about a "weak military" etc. HRC's arrogance bit her in the ass, by acting like anything Trump said could not possibly be on target. She stopped listening.
The Clinton campaign did nothing to build Clinton up, only to try to push Trump down. That was why they failed in those toss-up states.
(11-12-2016, 08:55 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: I am a Bernie fan, and the main reason is he does bring forward issues. The policy list he presented was about the problems we all face in some varying degrees. He has some good comprehensive explanations for how some if his proposed solutions could work, while others needed some work. The main point with him was the passion he showed in conveying the belief in making things better for as many as possible. Make fun of his mannerisms if you must, but I don't think he deserves ridicule for the care and effort he has put in over his entire career, all for the betterment of the public. The rest of the clown show we've been exposed to pale in comparison.
I am not making fun of Bernie, I just dislike people of the establishment pushing an anti-establishment message. I liked Bernie on the issues, but I can't support people trying to play the card he did.
(11-12-2016, 08:55 PM)wildcats forever Wrote: How long it will take for Democrats to regroup depends on how well they identify their problems, and who they pick to solve them. Plus who they choose to front the new and improved Party, which that in itself will take a good amount of time to establish the needed credibility to draw the majority back 'home'. I am not one to root for immediate GOP failure as a means to shorten this time span. I do hope that Trump does push for infrastructure programs right off the bat, then come up with a decent 'repaired' Obamacare plan. Neither of these two can be done quickly but ideally buys some time while things settle down.
I am right there with you on this. Like Obama said, if he succeeds, America succeeds.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR
"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
