11-13-2016, 06:49 PM
(11-13-2016, 04:44 PM)Dill Wrote: We don't have a big disagreement on Trump's remarks about veterans. I would only say that in phrasing his remarks, he was not just talking about McCain but about all POWs. And I apologize if that post sounded snippy, SSF. I don't have a big beef with you at all.
No worries, maybe I misunderstood your intent.
Quote:As for my next comments, no "partisan" absurdity there. You have only assumed that I wouldn't have the same opinion if Trump brought out a gold star family, etc. Were I the Democratic nominee, or speaking for Hillary's campaign in any official capacity, you may be quite sure I would not attack gold star parents who spoke out on behalf of Trump. If a Democratic official did so, I would be critical of that.
Critical sure, I have zero issue with being critical of the attacks. I have a big issue with saying that someone using their dead child for political capital is immune to repudiation. The minute you use your loss for political gain it is subject to counter argument and you have no one to blame but yourself for causing it. (yourself being a gold star family in this scenario)
Quote:In point of fact Trump did something along these lines when he brought out relatives of people killed by undocumented immigrants to one of his rallies to whip up anti-immigrant hate. However twisted I thought this move, I would not have criticized the bereaved.
He did and it was largely ignored. You may not have criticized the bereaved, and I'll absolutely take you at your word and retract my accusation of hypocrisy. But plenty of people did attack them from the left and it was not talked about at all.
Quote: Everyone who speaks at political convention does so for the political gain of their side. That is the point of having convention speakers. Hillary didn't 'use' anyone if the Khan's wanted to come forward and make their case, which they did and still do. We may continue to disagree about that.
Eh, I get that they wanted to speak, but using them, or Mike Brown's mom, is really just making political hay from their loss. Allowing this opens you up to political attack, regardless of your leanings. Know this beforehand and don't claim immunity. I get that you feel otherwise and I can respect that. I personally don't think anyone has the right to wade into a political fistfight with impunity.
