11-17-2016, 06:35 PM
(11-17-2016, 06:24 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Democrats passed legislation to help the working class afford health care. Republicans want toi repeal that.
Democrats proposed government providing more free education. How does that not help the working class?
Democrats proposed tax cuts for the middle class while Trump proposed tax cuts for the wealthy.
So what exactly did the Republicans offer the working class that was better than the Democrats?
The ACA is bad policy. It has good effects but it is overall bad policy. It gets more people insured but it doesn't address the actual issues. The Dems aren't entirely to blame for this, after all it is repackaged GOP policy from the Reagan era, but it is still bad policy. I had to say it three times for emphasis.
The free education idea is a crock. We don't need more people with college degrees, we need more people with job skills. The whole "everyone needs a degree" idea from the Bill Clinton era helped make this shift worse. It wasn't the only cause, but it is a contributing factor to the decline of the middle class. There are some genuine idiots in college that don't need to be there, and it's because of this. They are racking up debt to get a worthless degree or they would be racking up government debt to get one.
Tax cuts, another band aid solution that looks nice on the campaign trail but isn't based in reality. I'll admit to this one being something that could actually help the middle class, for a few months at least. But what are these middle class tax cuts coupled with? Reduced spending? In which areas? Tax increases? On whom?
As for the last point:
(11-17-2016, 04:42 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: So you don't think that the Democratic party getting back to focusing on the economy and policies to help the middle class would help win these voters back? I mean, don't get me wrong, the GOP is doing nothing to help them either, but that's just the thing. The Democrats have been the party for the middle class, as a whole, for a very long time. They feel abandoned by them and are now turning to the GOP in a "let's see if they will help us" move.
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"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR
