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(11-18-2016, 05:54 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: One of the most specious analogies I've ever seen made on this, or the old, board.  Well done.
 



Not what I said and your analogy is horrifically feeble.  It's more than one state, how many new states had gun control measures on their ballot this past election?  How many passed?  Do you really think that the anti-gun ownership people are finally satisfied and will make no more attempts?  I'd call you monstrously naïve if I didn't think you were being deliberately obtuse.




This analogy doesn't get less inane the more you repeat it.



Your response is so devoid of facts, logical thought or reason that you really should just not have bothered.  If you disagree, as you clearly do, I would expect you to be able to at least make a cogent argument for why I'm wrong.  This drivel actually saddens me, you used to be much better than this.

OK fine, I tried to do it the fun way, but now we'll do it the hard way.

Facts

In case you are worried that guns haven't sufficiently permeated American culture, here are some startling facts compiled by Jack Date, Pierre Thomas and Jason Ryan of ABC News.

• There are ~14,869 more gun stores in America than grocery stores. Specifically, there are 51,438 gun retailers and 36,536 grocery stores.
• There are almost as many gun dealers in America as gas stations. There are a total of 129,817 gun dealers in the country, which include retail stores (51,438), "collectors" (61,562), pawn shops (7,356), and importers and manufacturers. Meanwhile, there are 143,849 gas stations.
• There are more than twice as many gun stores in America as McDonalds restaurants. There are only 14,098 McDonalds.
• American gun companies made 5.5 million new guns in 2010 and 95% of them were sold to Americans.
• These ~5 million guns weren't nearly enough to satisfy American demand for guns in 2010, so an additional 3.3 million guns were imported.
• There were 16.5 million background checks for gun purchases in 2010. You can get a gun unless you have a criminal record or are evidently insane.
• 47,856 people were murdered in the U.S. with guns from 2006-2010. This was more than twice as many people as those killed by all other methods combined.
  

That's only the beginning.
ABC has more >
And there are a whole bunch of additional staggering American gun statistics here >
One of the favorite talking points of those who want military-grade assault weapons to remain freely available to anyone who wants them is that there aren't enough guns in America. These statistics should reveal that argument for what it is: Laughable.

But wait, there's more.
There are roughly 300 million privately owned guns in America.
So, I can see why you are worried that they are all going to disappear tomorrow.

Morefuckinfacts


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Guns In America, By The Numbers

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January 5, 201612:09 PM ET

Scott Horsley
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President Obama announced executive actions Tuesday, intended to curtail gun violence. But if history is any guide, the president's effort may have the unintended effect of boosting gun sales — 2015 was a banner year.
"After San Bernardino, our business went up probably 50 percent," John Lamplugh, who has run gun shows in Maryland and Pennsylvania for more than three decades, said, referring to the recent shooting in California. "It's either two things: They're scared and need to protect [themselves]. Or they're afraid that [the government is] going to take it from them. There's the two things that drive our business."
According to the Congressional Research Service, there are roughly twice as many guns per capita in the United States as there were in 1968: more than 300 million guns in all.
Gun sales have increased in recent years. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, U.S. gun-makers produced nearly 11 million guns in 2013, the year after the Sandy Hook elementary school massacre. That's twice as many as they made in 2010.

"There's a gun for every man, woman, and child, more or less," says Deborah Azrael of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center.
But that doesn't mean every man, woman and child has a gun. The number of armed households has actually declined to about 1 in 3. So an ever larger number of guns is concentrated in a shrinking number of homes:

One of Obama's executive actions would try to expand background checks and improve background check processing. According to the FBI, 23 million background checks were performed in 2015, nearly three times the 8.5 million performed in 2000.

Researchers say a decline in hunting is partly responsible for the shrinking number of households with a gun. Gun ownership rates remain higher in rural areas. And there is considerable variation from state to state. Fewer than 6 percent of households in Delaware and Rhode Island have guns, compared with more than 50 percent in Arkansas, West Virginia and Wyoming.


So, those being the facts, I'm right, you're wrong. xoxo