12-01-2016, 02:35 PM
(12-01-2016, 11:28 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote:
"At Southern Cal, Carson eased into a share of the quarterback job with Mike Van Raaphorst. It marked just the second time in school history that a true freshman started for the Trojans. Hackett had little doubt his freshman could handle the team’s West Coast offense, but was worried about his ability to read signals from the sideline. Carson got his first start against Washington in early November. And sure enough, he blew a play. Quarterbacks coach Ken O’Brien made a motion Carson misread as a deep post pattern for wideout Billy Miller. He hit Miller for a 57-yard touchdown. O’Brien said “Nice call” when Carson trotted off the field, then told him the actual play he had wanted. The Trojans won 33-10, and Carson completed 18 of 31 passes for 279 yards. From that point on, Carson wore a wristband with the plays written out. He ended up starting the final five games for the Trojans, leading the team to an 8-5 record, including a trip to the Sun Bowl."
https://www.jockbio.com/Bios/CPalmer/CPalmer_bio.html
So no, it had nothing to do with Carson having an expanded amount of plays he could run due to his arm. It was his inability to read calls from the sideline that lead to him wearing the cheat sheet.
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboysheadlines/2013/07/26/cowboys-qb-tony-romo-using-wristband-to-streamline-play-calling-process
This article talks about Romo implementing a cheat sheet because he was having trouble getting plays in on time. It had nothing to do with expanded knowledge of the playbook.
PS: I haven't taken any shots at you, and I'd appreciate if you could treat me with the same respect.
My apologies if you felt disrespected by my post. It was not the intent.
The topic was the NFL not NCAA. Headset technology is not used at the college level.
The article posted and the subsequent point attempting to be made has zero relevance to the discussion.
To the second point. I am confident any reasonable person would agree a playbook containing more plays would without a doubt require more time to signal or call-in. There would be two options to eliminate this issue. Simplify the options (shrink the playbook) or develop a faster system to communicate all the options.
As the QB has more ability to physically and mentally execute a wider variety of options the playbook will expand. The wristband method is used to combat the time constraints of the play clock.
As I stated your assertion that Palmer is "not intelligent" and needs a wristband is inaccurate and unfounded. Interestingly enough McNabb is said to have refused to use the wristband because he thought it would "be bad for my image". Meaning that there would be fans who do not understand the value of the wristband playbook and claim him to be less intelligent. A tag that he did not want...especially as it would be applied to a black QB. His thought was simply, why give some people unfounded reason to feel better about their own inadequacies by making inaccurate claims about him.
I do not believe Palmer bashers are trying to make themselves feel better, but more precisely feel better about Dalton.
Palmer bashing runs rampant here and people grasp at mythical ideas in an effort to reconcile our current circumstances. It seems to stems from the fact that Palmer told son of Paul to kiss his ass. Many fans can't separate that he was not speaking to them, but rather to the true cause of our angst...son of Paul.
Not playing for son of Paul and being the QB for our beloved Bengals are NOT mutually exclusive. He could not do one without the other. There is no reasonable football mind who would claim Andy has any physical skills that make him a better talent than Palmer. Those trying to make a case use intangibles like, "he is a winner", "he a leader", "he is smarter" or "he has more class" as unprovable reasons to claim why they are better off with Andy as their QB. When a disjointed event occurs, such as wearing a wristband can be spun to give credence to one of the bullshit statements made by some it is seized upon and spewed like fact.
Son of Paul will ruin Andy's career. He will most likely go down as "not clutch","can't win a playoff game", or some other BS. Palmer was,and is currently a better QB option than Dalton even at 37...Palmer could not do it here under this owner, neither has Dalton...and I for one do not believe that Brady or any other QB would either.
With a lack of accountability an organization will never reach it goals. That is true in real life and football too.
To address the OP's statement...Andy is good, just not really good.
He can be that without Palmer needing to being a bum, crybaby, quitter, classless, stupid, inadequate etc. See those two things are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. It feels a lot better to support all the Bengal's QB's (past and present) than to be forced into a one or the other camp. The only person who wins in that circumstances is son of Paul...he then is able to avoid his accountability because by the sheer nature of the argument, fans assign sole accountability to one of these two QB's.
