Andy Dalton is really good

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(12-01-2016, 02:35 PM)Rhinocero23 Wrote: My apologies if you felt disrespected by my post. It was not the intent. 

The topic was the NFL not NCAA. Headset technology is not used at the college level. 
The article posted and the subsequent point attempting to be made has zero relevance to the discussion.  

To the second point. I am confident any reasonable person would agree a playbook containing more plays would without a doubt require more time to signal or call-in. There would be two options to eliminate this issue. Simplify the options (shrink the playbook) or develop a faster system to communicate all the options. 

As the QB has more ability to physically and mentally execute a wider variety of options the playbook will expand.  The wristband method is used to combat the time constraints of the play clock. 

As I stated your assertion that Palmer is "not intelligent" and needs a wristband is inaccurate and unfounded. Interestingly enough McNabb is said to have refused to use the wristband because he thought it would "be bad for my image". Meaning that there would be fans who do not understand the value of the wristband playbook and claim him to be less intelligent. A tag that he did not want...especially as it would be applied to a black QB. His thought was simply, why give some people unfounded reason to feel better about their own inadequacies by making inaccurate claims about him.

I do not believe Palmer bashers are trying to make themselves feel better, but more precisely feel better about Dalton.  
Palmer bashing runs rampant here and people grasp at mythical ideas in an effort to reconcile our current circumstances. It seems to stems from the fact that Palmer told son of Paul to kiss his ass. Many fans can't separate that he was not speaking to them, but rather  to the true cause of our angst...son of Paul. 

Not playing for son of Paul and being the QB for our beloved Bengals are NOT mutually exclusive. He could not do one without the other. There is no reasonable football mind who would claim  Andy has any physical skills that make him a better talent than Palmer. Those trying to make a case use intangibles like, "he is a winner", "he a leader", "he is smarter"  or "he has more class" as unprovable reasons to claim why they are better off with Andy as their QB. When a disjointed event occurs, such as wearing a wristband can be spun to give credence to one of the bullshit statements made by some it is seized  upon and spewed like fact. 

Son of Paul will ruin Andy's career. He will most likely go down as "not clutch","can't win a playoff game", or some other BS. Palmer was,and is currently a better QB option than Dalton even at 37...Palmer could not do it here under this owner, neither has Dalton...and I for one do not believe that Brady or any other QB would either. 

With a lack of accountability an organization will never reach it goals. That is true in real life and football too. 

To address the OP's statement...Andy is good, just not really good. 
He can be that without Palmer needing to being a bum, crybaby, quitter, classless, stupid, inadequate etc. See those two things are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. It feels a lot better to support all the Bengal's QB's (past and present) than to be forced into a one or the other camp. The only person who wins in that circumstances is son of Paul...he then is able to avoid his accountability because by the sheer nature of the argument,  fans assign sole accountability to one of these two QB's. 


 

Man, I gotta agree with the entirety of what you say in regards to the Palmer-Dalton-S.o.P dynamic.....aside from Palmer being as viable an option in 2016 as Dalton.  I think father time has caught up with him.  Palmer prime > than Dalton thus far.  Maybe a lot of folks thought Carson wasn't as smart because of some of the poor decisions he made with the ball towards the end in Cincy.  I always attributed it to overconfidence.  Before the elbow injury, he COULD zip a ball into those tight windows, he didn't adapt to his physical limitations fast enough.  Hell, sometimes he still does it.  I DO believe Andy is very football smart, kind like of like the way Boomer ran Wyche's offense.  I think we would be better off if we turned him loose a la the Wyche days with a no huddle as our base offense.

Coming back from my tangent there, you are EXACTLY right.  How many careers has S.o.P. stunted?  Think of guys that were fortunate enough to get out of here and go on to bigger and better things.  His first clusterflub was when he canned Sammy, which in turn led to Boomer wanting out.  There is no shortage of players that have sought to get out from under the ineptitude.