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Conscription = Slavery ?
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(12-04-2016, 10:41 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: Truthfully, the only thing that makes conscription not slavery is one qualifier: they get paid. We also have to keep in mind that forced labor is, by some definitions, a form of slavery (and conscription is forced labor) but chattel slavery is what the 13th was all about. Essentially, it is a question of society. This was all hashed out in 1918 in Arver v. United States. Here is the last paragraph of the court's opinion:


Essentially, it is because of the court's view of serving in the military as "supreme and noble duty" that made them see the imposition of involuntary servitude, which conscription is, to be in violation of the 13th. They are saying with this that you shouldn't not want to fight, so your opinion doesn't matter.

I think they are saying it is bullshit, but what can they do, they are only only the Supremes. 
JOHN ROBERTS: From time to time in the years to come, I hope you will be treated unfairly so that you will come to know the value of justice... I wish you bad luck, again, from time to time so that you will be conscious of the role of chance in life and understand that your success is not completely deserved and that the failure of others is not completely deserved either.





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Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-04-2016, 08:44 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-04-2016, 10:41 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-04-2016, 12:09 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - HarleyDog - 12-04-2016, 10:53 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-04-2016, 12:11 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - HarleyDog - 12-04-2016, 03:14 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-04-2016, 06:29 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-05-2016, 02:50 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-05-2016, 12:41 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - HarleyDog - 12-05-2016, 11:36 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-05-2016, 11:58 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-06-2016, 12:06 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-06-2016, 03:14 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 05:23 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - HarleyDog - 12-06-2016, 09:04 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 12:13 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-06-2016, 12:57 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 05:38 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-06-2016, 03:06 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-07-2016, 11:34 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-04-2016, 12:24 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-04-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-04-2016, 12:36 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-04-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-04-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-04-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-05-2016, 10:55 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-04-2016, 06:45 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-05-2016, 01:03 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-05-2016, 03:41 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-05-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 02:17 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 03:08 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-05-2016, 08:36 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Au165 - 12-05-2016, 09:49 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-05-2016, 12:59 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-05-2016, 05:33 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-05-2016, 10:07 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-05-2016, 10:25 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 12:06 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 12:57 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 01:29 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 02:44 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 05:18 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 11:43 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 02:42 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 05:29 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 07:07 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 07:57 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-07-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-07-2016, 10:04 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-08-2016, 11:35 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-08-2016, 07:04 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-08-2016, 05:26 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-08-2016, 08:43 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-08-2016, 10:11 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - GMDino - 12-09-2016, 08:08 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-06-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 05:17 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-06-2016, 09:58 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 12:37 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - hollodero - 12-06-2016, 01:22 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-07-2016, 11:31 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-06-2016, 01:26 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-06-2016, 01:43 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-07-2016, 01:00 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-07-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-07-2016, 02:20 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-07-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-08-2016, 10:12 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-08-2016, 10:21 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-09-2016, 08:50 AM

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