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Conscription = Slavery ?
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(12-05-2016, 02:07 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I served, but I don't think the draft should be a thing unless it is to defend the land of the United States against foreign invaders (not Civil Wars). The draft isn't slavery though, because as others stated, you are paid.

If you can't get/entice enough soldiers for a war elsewhere, then there's a decent chance that the US shouldn't be in that war anyway. (Hey there, WW1.)

On the topic of women that you brought up, I am also back-and-forth on the whole women in combat positions. I know women can find themselves in combat regardless of their MOS being a "combat MOS" or not, but still. Pretty sure all studies have shown all-male combat units performing better and there's the worry of lowered physical standards. Will that 110lb woman be able to carry you, if your life depends on her doing it?

But in the end I go back to... if you're going to draft men, and women demand equality, then there needs to be full equality, which would include the draft.

One thing I would probably prefer is if a draft happens, the soldiers become part of the National Guard, with that state's federal income taxes being redirected to pay for it. So then the raised soldiers would technically be the state's military, rather than the federal government's military. But then, I am all about transferring power from the federal to the state level because the lower level of government it is, the more likely they are to know your needs and interests.
I'm pretty much in agreement with you.

I think IF a draft was started, the people should only be asked to defend their home state from possible attack.
I doubt many would object to protecting their immediate area, making my original question nearly moot.
But, that's not the way it had been in the past.

I'm just bothered by the concept of only having "freedom", when it's convenient
Did SO many people voluntarily spill their blood, so others might be FORCED to do the same.

I would volunteer, if our country were attacked.
However, I would not put a rifle in the back of a young person and force them to the frontline.
I honestly don't think we'd have to though.

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Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-04-2016, 08:44 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-04-2016, 10:41 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-04-2016, 12:09 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - HarleyDog - 12-04-2016, 10:53 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-04-2016, 12:11 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - HarleyDog - 12-04-2016, 03:14 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-04-2016, 06:29 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-05-2016, 02:50 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-05-2016, 12:41 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - HarleyDog - 12-05-2016, 11:36 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-05-2016, 11:58 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-06-2016, 12:06 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-06-2016, 03:14 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 05:23 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - HarleyDog - 12-06-2016, 09:04 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 12:13 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-06-2016, 12:57 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 05:38 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-06-2016, 03:06 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-07-2016, 11:34 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-04-2016, 12:24 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-04-2016, 12:30 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-04-2016, 12:36 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-04-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-04-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-04-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-05-2016, 10:55 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-04-2016, 06:45 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-05-2016, 01:03 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-05-2016, 03:41 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-05-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 02:17 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 03:08 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-05-2016, 08:36 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Au165 - 12-05-2016, 09:49 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-05-2016, 12:59 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-05-2016, 05:33 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-05-2016, 10:07 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-05-2016, 10:25 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 12:06 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 12:57 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 01:29 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 02:44 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 05:18 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 11:43 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 02:42 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 05:29 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 07:07 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-06-2016, 07:57 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-07-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-07-2016, 10:04 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-06-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-08-2016, 11:35 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-08-2016, 07:04 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-08-2016, 05:26 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - bfine32 - 12-08-2016, 08:43 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-08-2016, 10:11 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - GMDino - 12-09-2016, 08:08 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-06-2016, 02:56 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 05:17 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-06-2016, 09:58 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-06-2016, 12:37 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - hollodero - 12-06-2016, 01:22 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - xxlt - 12-07-2016, 11:31 AM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-06-2016, 01:26 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-06-2016, 01:43 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Rotobeast - 12-07-2016, 01:00 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-07-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-07-2016, 02:20 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Belsnickel - 12-07-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Dill - 12-08-2016, 10:12 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - fredtoast - 12-08-2016, 10:21 PM
RE: Conscription = Slavery ? - Bengalzona - 12-09-2016, 08:50 AM

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