Gunman At DC Pizza Parlor Was 'Investigating' Right-Wing Conspiracy 'Pizzagate' Lie

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(12-05-2016, 10:04 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: fredtoast
The only climate change scientists with financial motives are the ones hired by the oil and gas industry. 

Ginormously false.

There are huge incentives in green industries, as well as govt, for "research" to justify all kinds of taxes,regulation, control etc over fossil fuels.  It's irresponsibly ignorant not to acknowledge the trillion dollar industry climate change has become.

The amount of money going into climate research from the fossil fuel side is like, maybe, 1% of what's coming from govt organizations and other, shall we say, anti-fossil fuel organizations.

It's also a big money machine for universities, and people in climate research (and their entire departments), who's livlihood's depend on it.

Specific grants may not be tied to a "result", but you tend not to get future grants if you aren't "proving" something someone hopes is going to be proven.  And if no one was proving or advancing the climate change agenda, then the $100B spent annually or whatever it is on research would just go away.

The money is spent because climate change is by all indications a real threat. Hard to use the funding as an argument against the science behind it, or the scientists behind it. If man-made climate change is real (which it is, I say with evidence behind it), then all funding is justified, all research is justified, hence paying the scientists is justified. They did not "invent" climate change to make money, they make money by researching climate change. They have a job and get paid like everyone else does. Being a doctor also pays off, doesn't mean diseases aren't real.

The other things you describe - true or not, problematic or not - is politics, not science. Science or scientists can't be blamed for policies or what politics makes out of their research.

--- But you know what scientists would do if climate change somehow were proven to not be real? Switch to another field. They would not exactly be jobless, land on the streets and die. They're scientists, they have a profound education, opportunities and don't need a false "agenda" to survive.