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I feel bad for Andy
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(12-29-2016, 04:57 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yes.

Instead of just throwing out schoolyard insults I will ask you exactly which of those QBs I have listed in the same tier as Dalton are clearly better than him.

I can see where some people would rank Newton clearly higher, but he is not a better passer than dalton, and that still just drops Andy to #9.

I think the problem is people WANT to believe Andy should be ranked around 14-19 or so, but when they look at the list of 32 starters, it dawns on them that there really aren't that many unquestionably great QBs that clearly belong ahead of Dalton. 

You have your elites, then you have your 2nd tier with Dalton, Cam, Stafford, Luck types. I can't argue with having Dalton around 13th, as long as people realize Dalton probably belongs in that 2nd tier group.
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I feel bad for Andy - Trademark - 12-25-2016, 08:25 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 09:59 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-25-2016, 10:01 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Fan_in_Kettering - 12-30-2016, 04:42 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - JumboTron - 12-30-2016, 04:56 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - RASCAL - 12-25-2016, 10:11 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - HarleyDog - 12-25-2016, 11:10 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 12:40 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Aquapod770 - 12-25-2016, 11:12 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - jason - 12-25-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Whatever - 12-25-2016, 06:10 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - BengalChris - 12-26-2016, 07:05 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - treee - 12-25-2016, 12:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-25-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - McC - 12-25-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-25-2016, 02:55 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Always a Bengal - 12-25-2016, 12:44 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - treee - 12-25-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-25-2016, 04:51 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - jason - 12-25-2016, 05:55 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-25-2016, 06:06 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Vas Deferens - 12-25-2016, 06:06 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Jpoore - 12-25-2016, 06:12 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - TheLeonardLeap - 12-25-2016, 07:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-26-2016, 11:37 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Daddy-O - 12-26-2016, 11:52 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fortyyearfan - 12-26-2016, 08:08 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - OBX Bengal - 12-25-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 07:46 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:51 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-26-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - McC - 12-26-2016, 12:13 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-26-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 02:54 PM
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RE: I feel bad for Andy - bengalfan74 - 12-26-2016, 07:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SunsetBengal - 12-26-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SunsetBengal - 12-26-2016, 09:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-27-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-27-2016, 11:07 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:32 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Rubekahn29 - 12-27-2016, 08:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 08:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 09:20 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 10:13 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-27-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 09:45 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Hoofhearted - 12-28-2016, 11:46 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-28-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fortyyearfan - 12-26-2016, 08:18 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 01:42 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-26-2016, 02:01 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:21 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 02:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 04:30 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 04:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 05:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 05:59 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-26-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 03:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 04:33 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-28-2016, 11:23 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-28-2016, 04:50 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-29-2016, 04:41 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-29-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-29-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-29-2016, 07:19 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - OrlandoBengal - 12-30-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-29-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 09:37 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 03:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 04:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 09:01 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 09:12 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 10:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-31-2016, 12:49 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 08:15 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 09:04 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nicomo Cosca - 12-30-2016, 04:30 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Alleyviper13 - 12-26-2016, 02:28 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - TheLeonardLeap - 12-26-2016, 03:38 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-27-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:24 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 10:16 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:25 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 12:08 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:29 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 10:26 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 11:22 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 11:42 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 11:53 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-28-2016, 12:58 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-28-2016, 01:09 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 06:20 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Fan_in_Kettering - 12-26-2016, 10:09 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - CanadianBengal - 12-27-2016, 03:09 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 09:57 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-28-2016, 03:02 AM
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RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 10:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - milksheikh - 12-30-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-30-2016, 09:43 PM

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