Wall Street Journal Editor Says His Newspaper Won’t Call Donald Trump’s Lies ‘Lies’

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(01-02-2017, 02:29 AM)Rotobeast Wrote: While Trump isn't on my trustworthy list, I'm ok with the idea of news sources not labeling things.
I'd like to be shown facts that contradict previous facts, so I might determine if a lie took place, myself.
Give me stories with "you decide" at the end.

(01-02-2017, 03:35 AM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Yeah, decorum precedent usually means you don't outright accuse the POTUS of lying.  Trump has been tearing that down, though, so maybe all bets are off.

To me the bigger story is the Obama admin and liberal media trying to tear down and de-legitmize conservative media, and Trump appearing to put that on steroids and more or less establish state-run propaganda.  Always bothered me when Obama would call out Fox News, and now Trump is basically saying "if you criticize me, then I'll just cut you off".

Fortunately, this could be a positive to waking up ALL media

(01-02-2017, 09:57 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: That was a lot of the discussion this weekend on Meet the Press. Essentially, what does the media need to do to regain that credibility and do their jobs effectively. I had never watched the show before, but it was very interesting and I got sucked in.

As to the OP, I am mixed. If a false statement is made, I think it should be labeled as false. I get the whole idea of calling it a lie being seen as a judgment rather than an objective statement. I said Sean Spicer lied this morning because he should have known better, and if he didn't then that us shameful, but not every false statement is necessarily done purposefully or with extreme negligence.

(01-02-2017, 03:27 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: “I’d be careful about using the word ‘lie.’ ‘Lie’ implies much more than just saying something that’s false. It implies a deliberate intent to mislead.”


I see nothing wrong with this statement, and that is coming from someone who believes Donald Trump is completely unqualified and proven to be too incompetent for the role he is about to assume.

(01-02-2017, 04:50 PM)Benton Wrote: Agreed.

Really, in journalism, the only time they should be using the word is if it's deliberate (which is often hard to prove) or willfully negligent. In print, occasionally copy editors or headline writers will try to chop a headline down and toss lie in there, but they shouldn't.

I agree with all of these statements.  When media that wishes to be considered trustworthy gatekeepers of information to the people, begins to add opinion and lead the reader to think one direction or the other, they lose that credibility to be trusted in delivering the news.