01-11-2017, 08:48 PM
(01-11-2017, 04:02 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Here's a thought...what if instead of Mike Williams at 9, the Bengals take playmaker Dede Westbrook at 41?I just never liked Westbrook. His size is not good and he strikes me as a slot receiver nothing more and we have that. And while I like McMillan I actually like Walker as my top pick for round 2 followed by elflien bc the center in the focal point of the oline To Help pick up blitzes stunts etc. And a good center would go a long way towards fixing that. That said I love Walker he has ability to be absolutely elite.
If the point is the get the ball into a playmaker's hands and the team has a problem protecting Dalton longer than a few seconds, Westbrook may be faster at getting separation. He's definitely more of a big play threat with his speed and agility. The knocks on Westbrook are his size and two domestic violence charges from the mother of his two children from back in 2012 and 2013 (dropped), and those could definitely be what keeps him out of the first round. Some have compared Westbrook skill wise to Will Fuller coming out of Notre Dame last year, and we know the Bengals were reportedly high on Fuller entering last year's draft.
I would imagine though that if Westbrook were taken at 41, Elflein and McMillan wouldn't be available for the Bengals' pick in the third round, and we know you greatly prefer both of those players.
(01-11-2017, 06:31 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I never said Westbrook was the same type of WR. Westbrook is definitely suited for the slot, but he can also play outside occasionally and be a deep threat, similar to John Brown of the Cardinals. What this team needs, ultimately, is a receiver with speed. The team was reportedly keyed in on Will Fuller last year, and likely would have taken him if he would have been available. Was he a legit #1 type? No. He was a smaller receiver that could take the top off a defense.
While I like Williams, I don't this WR class is particularly full of top-tier talent. Williams himself is more of a possession receiver that can win contested catches and be a red zone threat. He's not really a deep threat that will take the top off a defense. If a WR is going to be drafted in the top 10, I think they need to be a complete WR with good speed.
Someone mentioned Keenan Allen comparison, and I can see that as a valid comparison. However, remember that Keenan Allen was drafted as a third rounder and projected as a late first or early second round pick.
While everyone WANTS to have a WR that can become that top receiver if the WR1 goes down, the reality is it never really happens.
I don't think Williams would be a bad pick, but I think there are other options in the second round and later that can also help improve this receiving corps both in the short and long term.
If Williams can run a 4.4 at the combine though, then he would prove me wrong and I would think he's a complete WR with speed and this team should scoop him up. Otherwise, I'd like to see this team go with a different position.
I saw that allen comparison in draftekk scouting report for Williams. I think here are 2 top tier wrs in this draft Williams and Davis. After that there's a huge drop-off to the John Ross and Juju Schuster and Westbrook's of the draft. As far as his speed williams is predicted to run a 4.48. While that's not elite speed it's great speed for a big wr who fits his frame extremely well. From what I have read he's elite at getting late separation. As in when the balls in the air he gets the most separation there. I think he's our future number 1 if we get him. My problem is if we don't go Williams I think we go Barnett which is a mistake imo bc I don't think Barnett at 9 is much if any better than Walker at 41.
