Tom Brady and Andy Dalton against Texans

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(01-25-2017, 01:26 PM)Rhinocero23 Wrote: Wyche did not say you said that...but to act as if it was not stated in the tread is disingenuous. It would be impossible to list 
every comment or every poster that one would like to address. This seems to be the way many disengage in the topic at hand and turn it into a fact finding mission on post. Not saying you do this but it is what happens.

To the Rose bowl comment, he was not playing against NFL talent either. So i am not sure what the point is. 

The Bengals teams of the past several years have been considered to be very talented. We all agree on this until the outcome of the season. Then when the team does dot reach its goals it is because Dalton does not have the talent he needs to succeed. How much fricking talent does this guy need?????

Does the coaching panic at the first hint of their game plan gone awry" yes
Are the players "mentally tough"? no - COUNTING DALTON  "let a turnover or two dictate the outcome of the game"


Like I have said many times....he is mid-tier. Could he have lead one of the New England teams, or Steelers teams to one of their recent Super Bowls...probably. I have never said he is a liability. I do not do believe he could do what Newton, Manning, Manning, Palmer, Flacco, Ryan, Rivers and others have done with less talented teams. THE ARGUMENT IS NOT CAN HE WIN WITH A STACKED TEAM...it is does he possess the talent and leadership to win in the playoffs here? to date the FACT is no he does not.

Ok, I just thought when you quoted my post that you were insinuating that I was a part of that. :andy: 

There wasn't NFL talent on that Wisconsin team?  Coulda fooled me:  There was this cat named JJ Watt, some scrub named Kevin Zeitler, another puke lineman named Gabe Carimi, a turd named Montee Ball, and a HOST of other NFLers like Beau Allen, Nick Toon, Peter Konz, John Moffitt, Marcus Cromartie, Chris Borland, James White, and Rick Wagner, to name a few......care to name the NFLers on TCU's 2010 squad?  The point is, with good coaching, dude can win, and win big games.  Always has, goes back to his high school days.

Dalton, and the whole team implodes......that's coaching.  Now, the QB coach that couldn't coach him up is......our frickin OC.  Swell.

Newton, Flacco, Palmer, Ryan, nor Rivers have ever done much without stacked teams either.  Rivers threw, what, 23 picks this season?  That's the point, you act like he isn't on these guys' level, I think he could be.

.....again though, how many of these guys win here with a shit head coach and his lifer assistants?  We know Palmer couldn't.....and he played on some stacked teams here, himself.