02-02-2017, 01:02 AM
I'm glad that there are so many people sharing their opinions here. Debate is good. From the sounds of it we have some intelligent people posting here, but I must respectfully disagree with some of your conclusions. It is my belief that there are too many coincidences presented with the primary evidence that is available for Pizzagate to be entirely false. It is my belief that there is more likely than not some sort of child trafficking operation that James Alefantis is involved in, and that Podesta is aware of. At the very least, there is enough there to warrant an official investigation into the matter. My goal with this post is to clarify why I believe what I believe.
To answer your question as to why I would bring up "random cases of child abuse" regarding an alleged case of a pizza shop being involved in some way with a sex trafficking operation - I brought all of that up for the purpose of establishing a pattern. There is a particular saying that comes to mind: history rhymes. If you can establish a pattern where powerful people(such as Jimmy Savile, Jeffrey Epstein, Robert Richards, Lawrence King, and many more) can get away with disgusting acts over and over again, and can even control public opinion regarding those events while they are relevant, you may have useful information from which to draw from. You can choose to believe that Jill Dando’s assassination soon after calling for an investigation into Savile's misdeeds was a coincidence(more on Savile here: http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/sickening-extent-jimmy-saviles-sex-7337595). You can choose to believe that there is nothing fishy about Monica Petersen committing suicide while investigating child trafficking in Haiti, that there is nothing fishy about her master's thesis disappearing, and that a random facebook post with a redacted username sourced by Snopes is a more valuable piece of evidence than this video: https://vid.me/gcj6 (Relevant portion begins at -2:18). I'll concede those points for now, but I will bring up other points for you to consider in their stead:
In the vein of “history rhymes”:
1. A sworn affidavit from the former head of the Dallas and LA FBI field offices that claims that child trafficking operations are perpetrated by government employees: [url= https://www.scribd.com/doc/277079803/Ted-Gunderson-Affidavit-on-Gang-Stalking-4-26-11]https://www.scribd.com/doc/277079803/Ted-Gunderson-Affidavit-on-Gang-Stalking-4-26-11[/url] (points 4 and 9)
2. This video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP1MtaSIePk
3. Former Vietnam war veteran and Nebraska State Senator, John Decamp, wrote a book titled, “The Franklin Cover-Up...” Here is an article discussing how he had discussed Jerry Sandusky long before the Penn State accusations: http://www.reddirtreport.com/around-world/franklin-cover-author-talks-about-how-he-linked-sandusky-and-penn-state-abuse-scandal
Here is an article about Gary Caradori, a private detective who investigated allegations of abuse during the Franklin scandal. He died in a plane crash. http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=110:king-expands-into-food-service-something-on-every-burner-jan-12-1985-&catid=6:news-articles&Itemid=1
Directly related to PG:
1. The active shooter who allegedly invaded Comet Ping Pong on 12/4/16 for the purpose of rescuing children was an out of work actor with an IMDB page(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t44). He allegedly fired a bullet at a lock which miraculously pierced a computer behind the wall. This video shows the hole in the computer at 3:55: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXApkzwKIh8&t=241s. We are told that this deranged out of work actor blindly fired into a room where he thought there may have been imprisoned children and spontaneously hit a computer. You can choose to believe that there is nothing fishy about this, but this alone seems highly suspicious to some.
2. Why is this archive of censorship so massive? If there is nothing to hide, why would there be so much censorship?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1482030
3. Just why does this particular sub have over 10,000 subscribers if this is a truly a fully debunked garbage story? Why do they label the following as “evidence?” : https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611. Why is new information still coming in when the election is over? What does anyone have to gain? Is it all bullshit? Will combing the contents of this link and the parent forum confirm what you already believe or will it make you question your beliefs? Might the many bits of circumstantial evidence and odd coincidences be indicative of something more concrete? It has to only be a string of unfortunate coincidences, right? You can choose to believe that too, but be warned, after digging deep into the subject you may never look at an echo chamber of people on a screen telling you what to think in quite the same way.
To answer your question as to why I would bring up "random cases of child abuse" regarding an alleged case of a pizza shop being involved in some way with a sex trafficking operation - I brought all of that up for the purpose of establishing a pattern. There is a particular saying that comes to mind: history rhymes. If you can establish a pattern where powerful people(such as Jimmy Savile, Jeffrey Epstein, Robert Richards, Lawrence King, and many more) can get away with disgusting acts over and over again, and can even control public opinion regarding those events while they are relevant, you may have useful information from which to draw from. You can choose to believe that Jill Dando’s assassination soon after calling for an investigation into Savile's misdeeds was a coincidence(more on Savile here: http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/sickening-extent-jimmy-saviles-sex-7337595). You can choose to believe that there is nothing fishy about Monica Petersen committing suicide while investigating child trafficking in Haiti, that there is nothing fishy about her master's thesis disappearing, and that a random facebook post with a redacted username sourced by Snopes is a more valuable piece of evidence than this video: https://vid.me/gcj6 (Relevant portion begins at -2:18). I'll concede those points for now, but I will bring up other points for you to consider in their stead:
In the vein of “history rhymes”:
1. A sworn affidavit from the former head of the Dallas and LA FBI field offices that claims that child trafficking operations are perpetrated by government employees: [url= https://www.scribd.com/doc/277079803/Ted-Gunderson-Affidavit-on-Gang-Stalking-4-26-11]https://www.scribd.com/doc/277079803/Ted-Gunderson-Affidavit-on-Gang-Stalking-4-26-11[/url] (points 4 and 9)
2. This video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP1MtaSIePk
3. Former Vietnam war veteran and Nebraska State Senator, John Decamp, wrote a book titled, “The Franklin Cover-Up...” Here is an article discussing how he had discussed Jerry Sandusky long before the Penn State accusations: http://www.reddirtreport.com/around-world/franklin-cover-author-talks-about-how-he-linked-sandusky-and-penn-state-abuse-scandal
Here is an article about Gary Caradori, a private detective who investigated allegations of abuse during the Franklin scandal. He died in a plane crash. http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=110:king-expands-into-food-service-something-on-every-burner-jan-12-1985-&catid=6:news-articles&Itemid=1
Directly related to PG:
1. The active shooter who allegedly invaded Comet Ping Pong on 12/4/16 for the purpose of rescuing children was an out of work actor with an IMDB page(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t44). He allegedly fired a bullet at a lock which miraculously pierced a computer behind the wall. This video shows the hole in the computer at 3:55: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXApkzwKIh8&t=241s. We are told that this deranged out of work actor blindly fired into a room where he thought there may have been imprisoned children and spontaneously hit a computer. You can choose to believe that there is nothing fishy about this, but this alone seems highly suspicious to some.
2. Why is this archive of censorship so massive? If there is nothing to hide, why would there be so much censorship?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1482030
3. Just why does this particular sub have over 10,000 subscribers if this is a truly a fully debunked garbage story? Why do they label the following as “evidence?” : https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611. Why is new information still coming in when the election is over? What does anyone have to gain? Is it all bullshit? Will combing the contents of this link and the parent forum confirm what you already believe or will it make you question your beliefs? Might the many bits of circumstantial evidence and odd coincidences be indicative of something more concrete? It has to only be a string of unfortunate coincidences, right? You can choose to believe that too, but be warned, after digging deep into the subject you may never look at an echo chamber of people on a screen telling you what to think in quite the same way.
