European Muslim Hate Poll

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(02-15-2017, 05:38 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Yes polls are a tricky thing. It relies on honest answers and people answer based on their mood of the day.

Yep. It seems to get harder and harder to get a representative sample size. You can't call people any more. You can stand on the street and get the opinion of the people that bothered to pay you attention.
Which, in this case, would contain many people that that strongly feel like "ah, immigration, hell yes it needs to stop! Where do I sign?" - not that representative.
I trust scientists, I do not trust pollsters and all this other semi-scientific stuff. (Do men enjoy the presence of an attractive lady - Study finds yes!)

(02-15-2017, 05:38 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: What about taking in the single men, putting them thru military training and then sending them back equipped as soldiers to fight for their country?

yeah no kidding, I once ran around proposing the military training idea to friends, further damaging my reputation. I tried to argue that finding the best - and in the end, most humane - solution is not about humanity, but about reality and facing it and at some points in history war is a morally acceptable answer and pragmatic stuff like that, there were a bunch of thoughts. I got convinced the idea isn't that good. What I found most persuasive was the question on which side i would intend to let them fight. Or if I really wanted to put in yet another civil war party just for fun. Kinda hard to respond to that.
We don't even know whose side you're on. We always guess the Kurds, because they are so easily betrayed after, but no idea. Europe probably shouldn't go to war with trained refugees on its own, especially when we could wind up fighting allies or new-found friends of allies and such. Yup, I see no way how this could possibly work in practice on our continent in the current circumstances. And it still would be, like, sending people to a war of questionable result, which is not the kind of thing Europe does easily.

- Of course they also said that I obviously would like to get many refugees killed just so some right-wingers wouldn't go crazy by seeing a bearded man. At this point I usually backed down.

And since you said it like you said it, one more thing. I can not accept only saving those that can serve and letting older people, women and kids just perish. And I do not see a way how I could come around there.

(02-15-2017, 05:38 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Yes There are some Syrians that I would take in, those that helped our military for starters. They risked their lives and their families lives, they should not simply be cast aside.

Yeah, that would be a very decent thing to do. Not to be too fussy, but someone should really tell your president that.

(02-15-2017, 05:38 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Christians next because they are a minority and being persecuted as well. After that, take single men of military age, put them in our military and train them. Equip them and send them back in groups so they can fight for their country.

This Christian thing is... I don't know, just stirring the pot too much for me. They are all persecuted, for one reason or another. The logical reason to prefer Christians would really be that they are not muslims and hence they won't blow stuff up. And I don't really want to discriminate on those grounds alone. (That being said, I am not a Christian myself.) The refugees usually all flee radical Islam, so well.
And about the terrorists. If you prefer Christians, the next terrorist will probably enter the country as a Christian refugee.

(02-15-2017, 05:38 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: PS Side note, idiots or deplorables?

Hm. I just try to figure out why you would pose that question. First things first, I can assure you, although you're an alt-right guy in my book I would never ever count you personally into either of those groups. But that a certain part of the alt-right movement or the European counterparts consists of low-literacy low-IQ guys is just an obvious truth. Those are the people that believe the most horrendous nonsense, or openly root for a muslim's death and cheer for more gruesome killing because their brain is too tiny to feel the slightest empathy, or see stupid conspiracies everywhere and are scared of chemtrails and so on. Yes, idiots.
Now add in all racists, Neonazis, KKK members and whatnot (although most of them were in the idiots group already). idiots + KKK Nazi racists = deplorables.

And as I said, that IS not the whole right-wing movement, that IS not the whole Trump electorate. Just all of them are at the party too.

(02-15-2017, 05:38 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Good to see that Fence is working out well for your Country.

what is it with you and your fences? I repeat, whatever is or is not erected at my country's borders is in no way, shape or form my personal responsibility.
And a fence is not a wall.
And Austria actually built a fence that is a whopping 5 kilometers long, about three miles as you would say. So hm.