European Muslim Hate Poll

[Belsnickel]

(02-17-2017, 10:55 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: What has yet to be mentioned, and often is in discussions of islam, is that it's not just a religion by design. It is also a system of government as laid out in both the koran and the hadith (yes, I know the hadith is more apocryphal,although IMO everything about monotheism is). It is unique among the monotheisms in that it is not just a spiritual guide, it is a guide to governance as well. It is also, at this point an time, the most illiberal and hard line of all the world's religions and this is beyond dispute. It also has a stated inherent goal to convert the entire world to its teachings.

Even given the above my biggest problem with islam as practiced is its incompatibility with western values. While a small fraction of islam's adherents are violent jihadists a much larger, and significant, faction do not have a problem with the violent jihadists, or at least see their point. You saw it clearly after the Hedbo attacks, many prominent muslims spoke out against the violence. However, their condemnation was always coupled with a "but", but you have to understand, muslims find these caricatures of Muhammad to be deeply offensive. The implication being that the violence was provoked, to which I loudly claim bullshit.

Lastly, I never cease to be amazed, and slightly amused, by the defense of islam by feminists. You won't find a more misogynistic world view anywhere on the planet than within islam as currently practiced. At least orthodox judaism makes both men and women wear horribly uncomfortable clothing.


Given all of the above one should expect things to get worse in Europe, not better.

For the part in bold, no, it's not unique. Judaism has the same thing. The Mitzvot were a guide to governance.

As to the rest, I think my biggest issue with Islam is that it is going in reverse. Islam was progressing for a long time. What we saw happen was the Salafist movement take hold. Salafism has become what people associated with Islam today because of Saudi Arabia's influence over the entire Middle East. Look at Iran and the pictures you see of before the revolution and today. Salafism was the bucking against western colonialism among Sunnis, and that influence from Saudi Arabia caused what we see today in Iran with their Shi'ia population.

Islam has been going backwards in the middle east for over two centuries, and that message has been spreading outward.