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European Muslim Hate Poll
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(02-17-2017, 11:29 AM)toBelsnickel Wrote: For the part in bold, no, it's not unique. Judaism has the same thing. The Mitzvot were a guide to governance.

As to the rest, I think my biggest issue with Islam is that it is going in reverse. Islam was progressing for a long time. What we saw happen was the Salafist movement take hold. Salafism has become what people associated with Islam today because of Saudi Arabia's influence over the entire Middle East. Look at Iran and the pictures you see of before the revolution and today. Salafism was the bucking against western colonialism among Sunnis, and that influence from Saudi Arabia caused what we see today in Iran with their Shi'ia population.

Islam has been going backwards in the middle east for over two centuries, and that message has been spreading outward.

I don't think Islam has been going "backwards" for two centuries.

But as you point out, Saudi Wahabism/Salafism is the biggest ideological impetus to the current Jihadist movement--though certainly not the only cause.  Colonialism, the foundation of Israel, and bad rulers (Saddam, Mubarak, and Assad) were critical factors and broken states are now the "petri dishes" in which the culture grows outside of SA.  It has a special attraction in places where security has broken down, then been reconstituted under religious authority..

That is why I think it a misstep to always be talking about what kind of religion ISLAM is, as if it has always been what we see now in the Syrian/Nigerian/Yemeni outback. 

20 years ago, hardly any women in Cairo wore the Hijab; now even "progressive" university students do, almost 100%. 
Saying "it's because ISLAM is this or that" doesn't explain this change. Tracing Wahabist (Saudi) funding of Salafism begins to.
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European Muslim Hate Poll - Rotobeast - 02-15-2017, 02:47 AM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-15-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-15-2017, 04:11 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-19-2017, 05:13 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-19-2017, 06:56 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Rotobeast - 02-15-2017, 02:22 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - BmorePat87 - 02-15-2017, 03:32 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - PhilHos - 02-16-2017, 01:20 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - BmorePat87 - 02-16-2017, 01:42 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-15-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-15-2017, 07:10 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-15-2017, 06:33 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-15-2017, 07:29 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-16-2017, 04:29 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-17-2017, 11:29 AM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-19-2017, 05:37 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-19-2017, 04:50 AM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-19-2017, 07:10 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-19-2017, 07:20 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-20-2017, 04:10 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-20-2017, 04:20 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-20-2017, 04:13 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-19-2017, 07:28 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-19-2017, 07:39 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-20-2017, 04:33 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-20-2017, 06:47 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-21-2017, 12:35 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-21-2017, 01:10 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-21-2017, 10:31 PM

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