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European Muslim Hate Poll
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(02-19-2017, 05:37 PM)Dill Wrote: I don't think Islam has been going "backwards" for two centuries.

But as you point out, Saudi Wahabism/Salafism is the biggest ideological impetus to the current Jihadist movement--though certainly not the only cause.  Colonialism, the foundation of Israel, and bad rulers (Saddam, Mubarak, and Assad) were critical factors and broken states are now the "petri dishes" in which the culture grows outside of SA.  It has a special attraction in places where security has broken down, then been reconstituted under religious authority..

That is why I think it a misstep to always be talking about what kind of religion ISLAM is, as if it has always been what we see now in the Syrian/Nigerian/Yemeni outback. 

20 years ago, hardly any women in Cairo wore the Hijab; now even "progressive" university students do, almost 100%. 
Saying "it's because ISLAM is this or that" doesn't explain this change. Tracing Wahabist (Saudi) funding of Salafism begins to.

The going backwards for two centuries is in reference to the time of founding for Salafism. Since then, we have seen the spread of that influence grow and a regression of the societies in which it has spread.

As for the reasons, colonialism is really the reason for all of it, but people don't like to hear that. Salafism/Wahabism was founded as a response to western colonialism, the creation of Israel was a result of western colonialism, the terrible rulers made their bones decrying, you guessed it, western colonialism.

Nobody wants to hear it, but Europe and later the US can have a direct line drawn to them from every cause of Islamic extremism.
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European Muslim Hate Poll - Rotobeast - 02-15-2017, 02:47 AM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-15-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-15-2017, 04:11 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-19-2017, 05:13 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-19-2017, 06:56 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Rotobeast - 02-15-2017, 02:22 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - BmorePat87 - 02-15-2017, 03:32 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - PhilHos - 02-16-2017, 01:20 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - BmorePat87 - 02-16-2017, 01:42 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-15-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-15-2017, 07:10 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-15-2017, 06:33 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-15-2017, 07:29 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-16-2017, 04:29 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-17-2017, 11:29 AM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-19-2017, 05:37 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-19-2017, 04:50 AM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-19-2017, 07:10 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-19-2017, 07:20 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-20-2017, 04:10 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-20-2017, 04:20 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-20-2017, 04:13 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Belsnickel - 02-19-2017, 07:28 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-19-2017, 07:39 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-20-2017, 04:33 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-20-2017, 06:47 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-21-2017, 12:35 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - hollodero - 02-21-2017, 01:10 PM
RE: European Muslim Hate Poll - Dill - 02-21-2017, 10:31 PM

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