07-27-2015, 10:09 PM
(07-27-2015, 04:32 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: To a large portion of the Native Americans, ownership of land was a completely foreign concept.
They DID have boundaries established, for coexisting with others (and yes, some fought over that), but they couldn't comprehend the ownership of nature.
Passiveness bit them in the posterior, but to say they should have completely disregarded their beliefs of nature as its own spirit is a bit unreasonable.
Most tribes were not passive at all. They were constantly raiding their neighbors, killing each other and taking slaves. The boundaries that existed between tribes were usually not diplomatically determined, they were determined by how many resources a tribe could defend before they were spread to thin to do so. You are right in the statement that the ownership of land was a foreign concept to them, but the taking and holding of resources was not.
(07-27-2015, 09:05 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: You're omitting lies told to natives by us, and by us I mean the French, Spanish and every other European country that came to North America. We are them.
But that's not what's so ***** funny. The funny part is you believe natives weren't civilized. Only savages would commit genocide in the manners in which we did. Only savages could lie in manners that we did. Just because they were simple in ways we may not understand doesn't make them less human
Less civilized does not = less human. And again, the indians lied, cheated, stole, murdered, and enslaved each other plenty before the europeans came on the scene. The europeans simply were more technologically advanced, and over time had greater numbers than the native peoples. If the situation would have been reversed, they would have beaten the europeans back into the sea over time. Simply a matter of the more advanced society swallowing up the less advanced society. Has happened that was throughout history.
