Your Ideal Pick @ 9?

[CJD]

(03-19-2017, 10:04 PM)Whatever Wrote: The bigger concerns I've seen with Barnett have been his lack of size, power, and lack of an inside move.  Anybody can see on film he can turn the corner.

Dude, his 3 Cone was very good, but 6 of 56 DL did the three cone in 7.00 flat or less.  It's not like it's the DL equivalent of running a sub-4.3 40.

He was 27th out of 51 DL who ran the 40, and there were only two guys smaller than him that performed worse.  He got beat by guys like Malik McDowell and Montravious Adams.  By comparison, Dunlap ran a 4.71 and MJ ran a 4.75.  

Except he didn't do all the tests.  He didn't do the bench, and he skipped the 60 yard shuttle along with most of the rest of the DL.  He also didn't do drills. I mean, c'mon, man, I don't have a problem with you spinning the facts for your guy, but they need to actually be facts.

These are two soon to be professional athletes of approximately equal age and size that play the same position.  It's not like it's a situation of "Hey, they were pretty impressive for a 40 year old soccer mom."  There's no reason to go into it with lower standards for one or the other.

That's where we disagree, and it's clear.

You went in with the same expectations for every player. I went in with the expectations put on each player individually.

Barnett is a production player. Thomas is a workout warrior. 

I have different expectations for these types of players.

I was expecting a good performance from Thomas and got it.

I was expecting a bad performance from Barnett and got a good performance in addition to the fact that he was sick all weekend. 

You may still be more impressed by the raw numbers of the work out warrior, but workout numbers do not make a great player.

I was more impressed by the guy who actually produced at an elite level in college and, in addition, had a good performance. You're right that it wasn't great but, like I said, he was sick and he obviously didn't have the best technique in the 40.

You can only attribute so much to workout numbers and, in my opinion, I saw what I needed from Barnett to still be confident that he's worth the #9 pick.

Hence, impressed.