Your Ideal Pick @ 9?

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(03-20-2017, 08:32 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: That's where we disagree, and it's clear.

You went in with the same expectations for every player. I went in with the expectations put on each player individually.

Barnett is a production player. Thomas is a workout warrior. 

I have different expectations for these types of players.

I was expecting a good performance from Thomas and got it.

I was expecting a bad performance from Barnett and got a good performance in addition to the fact that he was sick all weekend. 

You may still be more impressed by the raw numbers of the work out warrior, but workout numbers do not make a great player.

I was more impressed by the guy who actually produced at an elite level in college and, in addition, had a good performance. You're right that it wasn't great but, like I said, he was sick and he obviously didn't have the best technique in the 40.

You can only attribute so much to workout numbers and, in my opinion, I saw what I needed from Barnett to still be confident that he's worth the #9 pick.

Hence, impressed.

Barnett did not have a "good" performance, however.  Mediocre would be a better description.  He was in the middle of the pack in everything he competed in except one, and a lot of the guys he did beat in those various drills were DT's.  He was below average if you just compare him to other DE's.  

I hate the poor technique excuse for bad 40 times.  These guys all had 2+ months to prepare for the combine.  If a guy has poor technique, it's because he didn't invest the time to learn proper technique, he doesn't take coaching well, or he has a lingering injury that prevents him from using proper technique.  None of those is a good thing.

Thomas can be dubiously labeled as a workout warrior despite the fact that he had good, but not elite, production his senior season.  Plenty of workout warriors turn out to be busts.  Similarly, there are a lot of guys with great production and mediocre physical traits that bust, too.  It depends.  Do you prefer the one year wonder with great physical traits you can develop or the guy with great production over several years with mediocre physical traits that couldn't even learn how to run a 40 properly in 2 months?