Try to sell me on O.J. Howard.

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(04-02-2017, 07:43 AM)Jpoore Wrote: So college stats dont matter at all?? To me they do. And butt is infinitely better blocker than howard. Its not even up for debate. I liken him to witten because he will be a chain mover as well as an excellent pass blocker. He wont be a gronk or reed catch and run 60 yard td. Butt did everything michigian asked him to do, was albe to block bosa 1 on 1, and played well against great defenses. Also an interesting stat for butt. 2015-2016 on post and corner routes: 24 targets, 17 catches, 394 yards, 4 touchdowns and 1 interception; Michigan QBs had a 135.4 QB Rating when targeting Butt on those two routes. This is what i mean. He will move the chains and be an elite te blocker.
Howard is so inferior to butt its not even funny as far as blocking is concerned. They are 2 completely different prospects. When u are drafting howard, ur drafting the gronk/olsen/reed splash plays for tds. When u draft butt, ur drafting a jason witten. A guy who will get you the 10-12 yard catches but isnt breaking anything huge while being an elite te pass blocker.

Where are you getting that Butt is an "infinitely better blocker" than Howard? Multiple draft analysts and scouting reports say that he is just a serviceable blocker.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-jake-butt-te-michigan/

PFF Wrote:Improved as a run-blocker in 2016, and he’s certainly a willing blocker, though there’s still a lot of room to improve.
Run-blocking in general is going to be a struggle
Inexperience in pass protection; hasn’t shown strong ability in pass protection when asked to stay in.
Asked to pass block on just 11.6 percent of his passing snaps last season (167th out of 197 draft-eligible tight ends); surrendered eight pressures on 85 pass block attempts over the past two seasons.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jake-butt?id=2557859

Lance Zierlein Wrote: Butt must improve greatly as a blocker to reach his potential as a Y tight end

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2060719/jake-butt

Dane Brugler Wrote:inconsistent anchor in pass protection vs. power...struggles to sustain in space as a blocker and needs to better mirror with his lower body to avoid holding penalties

Meanwhile, the same sources for scouting on OJ Howard...
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2061190/oj-howard

Dane Brugler Wrote: Howard showed considerable improvement as blocker in 2016, demonstrating greater effort and upper body strength. He possesses the length and strength to lock-out defenders, turning and sealing them to create lanes for teammates.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/o.j.-howard?id=2557856

Lance Zierlein Wrote: Lands his hands inside the frame as a blocker. Operates with wide base and attempts to snap hips into his block...Needs better hand strength to sustain his blocks.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-o-j-howard-te-alabama/

PFF Wrote:Graded positively as a run-blocker each season since 2014, had highest run-blocking grade among all tight ends in 2016.
Looks to finish blocks, very tough for smaller defenders to shed once engaged. Makes sure play is past him before letting up.
Very effective on frontside of outside zone runs. Quick enough out of the snap to execute reach blocks, works well off combos and is effective moving up into the second level. Earned 11 positive grades this season while blocking on outside zone versus zero negative grades.
Doesn’t just blindly dive on cut blocks. Appears to consciously seek out the defenders legs, will take an extra step on his lunge if need be.
Great downfield lead blocker. Takes good angles, athletic enough to stay in front of the run and bullies smaller defensive backs.
Questionable ability in pass protection. Only allowed one pressure this season, but asked to stay in and block less (15.8 percent in 2016 vs 20.2 in 2015) after surrendering six pressures on just 85 pass-blocking snaps in 2015. Will get overpowered by more explosive NFL edge defenders and may be susceptible to inside moves.
He has the size, speed, hands and feel to be effective in the passing game while doubling as a strong run-blocker if placed in the right scheme.