The OK case

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(04-04-2017, 10:22 PM)hollodero Wrote: OK I'd like to quickly add something to the debate, not just goofing around. Your profound expertise in all kinds of killing machines have made my head swirl; it's bizarre, but that's just European sensitivity. You do stuff your way, so whatever.

Just a quick question for an outsider like me. You have driver licenses, here getting one of these takes I dont know maybe 30 hours of practice, two full days of lecture and then exams. And I think that's only fair, since cars are potentially dangerous and people could get harmed or killed if handled unprofessionally. - Why doesn't this profound logic apply to guns, though? You want a gun, you prove you can handle a gun, you either served or take a course and get your licence. You want more power, machine guns or whatever to outarm whoever, you go through some hours of proper paramilitaric training. Oh, and a short psychological evaluation might not be the worst idea, too. Then you get a licence, then you can buy a gun and protect your family from armed intruders instead of potentially harm them with your own weaponry.

Now, whoever would not be behind that, please explain why not. I want to capture the American spirit.

Like most national characteristics, the answer is complicated.  The Framers were a mix of Federalists and anti-Federalists, so our government is an odd mix of deference to a central authority and a profound mistrust of the same.  National loyalty is stressed while at the same time the states are given, individually, a large amount of power and autonomy.  Add the fact that, for a large amount of the country's history it was a frontier nation.  I have several firearms that have been passed down from four generations, from my great grandfather in WW1.  My maternal uncle has a pistol that was used by a direct ancestor in the civil war.  Firearm ownership is ingrained in many American families.

(04-04-2017, 11:45 PM)GMDino Wrote: I never understood the fight against a registry.  Many countries have them.  I'm not sure they "pretty much have never turned out well" for the ones that still do to this day.

Edit: Before I get accused.  I fully support the 2nd Amendment.  You have a right to own a gun.  I just don't understand what the difference is someone, somewhere knows you own it since it's legal anyway.

The resistance to a registry is due to the perception that registration is the last step before confiscation.  Despite the bemused skepticism of people like xxlt the progressive states have shown that such concerns are rooted in some reality.  Also, anti 2A types have published such lists on the internet in the past.  Might as well make a map of which houses criminals should try and burgle.  

(04-04-2017, 11:45 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Not often.
Most intruders are junkies looking for stuff to sell, so they might get their next fix.

How often does your house burn down?  Doesn't stop people from having fire insurance.  In CA many people have earthquake insurance as homeowners insurance doesn't normally cover it.  As Roto will agree with me, it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.