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Jonathan Allen DE?DT
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(04-17-2017, 09:34 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: This will surely be the minority vote here, but I pass (or try to act interested and trade back to someone who really wants him) on Allen.  Here's why:  He isn't a true RDE and I don't think he can be at the NFL level.  He lacks the speed, length, and agility to play on the edge.  I think he was very successful in college when he rotated inside because he had massive talent around him and some speed demons rotating off the edge that teams had to focus on.  

He is a very talented player, don't get me wrong.  Stout at the point of attack, a good run-stuffing DE, but not a guy that will terrorize QBs off the edge.  If we want him because of what he can do on third downs, rotating inside, then you have to think of him more as a DT than a DE and they simply can't rank one that highly.

I like him, but more for a 3-4 team playing DE.  Not playing DE in a 4-3 team such as ours.  We need an answer for when teams go max protect and that RDE must have speed to get around NFL LTs.

If a team is running max protect then speed means very little, because your not running around a 6 man protection scheme. You have a HB who's job is to double working inside out and most likely with a TE on the other side the HB will provide support to the LT unless someone comes flying up the middle. If a team has 6 on 4 blocking numbers you don't really expect to get pressure, that is why what Geno can do up the middle is such a huge advantage.

I have said it multiple times, he had the same numbers as Michael Bennett had coming out but with way better production against better competition. He can be successful at a 3 or 5 technique, especially on a line like ours where he won't ever see a double team because of Geno and Carlos.
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Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Derrick - 04-09-2017, 09:09 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Go Cards - 04-09-2017, 09:26 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Murdock2420 - 04-10-2017, 01:22 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - phil413 - 04-10-2017, 01:40 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - jj22 - 04-10-2017, 10:55 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 12:13 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Essex Johnson - 04-10-2017, 03:03 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 03:04 PM
Jonathan Allen DE?DT - BenZoo2 - 04-10-2017, 12:16 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Go Cards - 04-10-2017, 01:55 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - PikesPeakUC - 04-10-2017, 02:12 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Hammerstripes - 04-10-2017, 02:19 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Hammerstripes - 04-10-2017, 04:32 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 04:36 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Hammerstripes - 04-10-2017, 04:38 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 04:43 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Hammerstripes - 04-10-2017, 04:48 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 04:51 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Essex Johnson - 04-10-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - NATI BENGALS - 04-11-2017, 01:51 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - phil413 - 04-12-2017, 07:48 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - J24 - 04-12-2017, 03:06 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - SHRacerX - 04-17-2017, 09:34 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-17-2017, 10:01 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - SHRacerX - 04-17-2017, 11:15 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-17-2017, 12:14 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - SHRacerX - 04-17-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-17-2017, 12:46 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - NATI BENGALS - 04-17-2017, 11:39 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-18-2017, 09:17 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - NATI BENGALS - 04-19-2017, 12:52 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - SHRacerX - 04-18-2017, 08:19 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-18-2017, 09:30 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - yang - 04-19-2017, 10:23 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Whatever - 04-19-2017, 12:39 PM

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