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Jonathan Allen DE?DT
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(04-17-2017, 12:46 PM)Au165 Wrote: Your obsession with speed is noted, and frankly will be disregarded. Short area burst has nothing to do with a 40 time. If you want to talk 10 second splits that is different, but not even a big deal. Joey Bosa's 4.88 compared to Charlton's 4.91 isn't the magic difference in future success. William Gholston had a bunch of success with a 4.98 40 time, how does he rush without speed! Robert Ayers and his 4.9 must be using magic to get to the QB. Of course the clone comparison height weight and so on Michael Bennet has somehow gotten 45.5 sacks with his 5 second 40. The reality is if everything is about sprinting up field to "run the loop" you are getting washed out by any reasonably good LT.

He could not pan out for a number of reasons, but using speed is simply a cop out answer.

Doing some real damage to your argument dropping those names. 

Joey Bosa is a monster. He was 6'5" 269lbs and ran a 4.7. Jonathan Allen is 6'2" 286lbs and ran a 5.0. Bosa was an impact player as a true freshman. Charlton was finally a full time starter his senior year. 

Gholston has 10 sacks in 4 years. Topping out at 3 in a year. 

Ayers has never reached double digit sacks. He has 33 sacks in 8 years. Averaging a little over 4 sacks a year. 

Michael Bennett was an UDFA. Definitely has turned into a hell of a player. But with his college production and measureables he wasn't even deemed draftable. For as good as he has been. Double digit sacks once in his career. Playing with the legion of boom and a defense consistently one of the best in the league helps the guy for sure. 

Speed is definitely not everything. But it is a part of the equation. 

The success rate of 5.0sec 40 4-3 DEs is probably stupidly low. Probably low enough to make you question pulling the trigger on one in the top 10. 
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Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Derrick - 04-09-2017, 09:09 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Go Cards - 04-09-2017, 09:26 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Murdock2420 - 04-10-2017, 01:22 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - phil413 - 04-10-2017, 01:40 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - jj22 - 04-10-2017, 10:55 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 12:13 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Essex Johnson - 04-10-2017, 03:03 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 03:04 PM
Jonathan Allen DE?DT - BenZoo2 - 04-10-2017, 12:16 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Go Cards - 04-10-2017, 01:55 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - PikesPeakUC - 04-10-2017, 02:12 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Hammerstripes - 04-10-2017, 02:19 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Hammerstripes - 04-10-2017, 04:32 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 04:36 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Hammerstripes - 04-10-2017, 04:38 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 04:43 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Hammerstripes - 04-10-2017, 04:48 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-10-2017, 04:51 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Essex Johnson - 04-10-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - NATI BENGALS - 04-11-2017, 01:51 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - phil413 - 04-12-2017, 07:48 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - J24 - 04-12-2017, 03:06 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - SHRacerX - 04-17-2017, 09:34 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-17-2017, 10:01 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - SHRacerX - 04-17-2017, 11:15 AM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-17-2017, 12:14 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - SHRacerX - 04-17-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - Au165 - 04-17-2017, 12:46 PM
RE: Jonathan Allen DE?DT - NATI BENGALS - 04-17-2017, 11:39 PM
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