04-18-2017, 09:11 AM
(04-18-2017, 08:54 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: We are, but you're acting like his embarrassments towards this city/team aren't cumulative.
You can't have that arrest and big rant, and then go "Oh he just needs another chance. That's not who Adam is anymore." and the very next chance he has to NOT be a raging asshole, he turns into a raging asshole yet again. For the umpteenth time. He's clearly demonstrated time and time again, he's a pretty terrible person, and he's obviously not going to change at 33 if he hasn't already.
Well, a few things here....
- You're putting words in my mouth and taking things others have said and putting them on me. I look at both instances of Pacman's behavior as separate. I also watched the video and, frankly, it's no worse or different than any other player has been towards reporters asking volatile questions, which is what the guy did. On purpose or innocently, he asked a second question after Pacman addressed it the first time thanking the organization and mentioning the fans and city. Athletes have gotten mad at this stuff a million times in the same manner Jones did. Watch the video and you'll see that the articles about it are blowing it out of proportion to stoke flames - unless there is more to it (?), which I didn't see in the videos on Youtube.
- I don't think Pacman is a saint by any stretch. He's done some crappy things in his life. In general, though, he has been nowhere near the Titans/Cowboys Pacman. He's done a lot of things in the community and has been a loyal Bengal to the team.
^ That doesn't mean that I excuse his behavior in any way. Or that I accept him acting like an idiot in public just because he's not inciting riots with a posse at strip clubs anymore. But I am OK separating Pacman the football player from Pacman the drunk guy yelling at cops. Cops who, according to the DA, shouldn't have arrested him or charged him in the first place - which is why Pacman was so irate in the police car. After they made a scene for the sake of making a scene and arresting him, I don't have any opinion on how another man is going to act in that situation. that's his deal to PERSONALLY handle. Just because he handles it differently than I, you, or many others would doesn't mean I am going to care one way or the other. We can all armchair QB on how we would handle that. LOTS of people flip out on the cops after being arrested in scenarios like that.
I read the DA's entire statement on the incident and I'll take his account and decision over whatever the court of public opinion is going to get out of their limited details on it.
- Pretty terrible people don't buy bikes for entire schools nor do they do community work. That doesn't give Jones a pass, but what did the guy do in the incident you keep bringing up? Get drunk at a bar, get pissed at a security guard (who knows really what for), get arrested (WRONGLY, according to the DA), and then flip out about it? Pssssh. Words at a cop? Have thicker skin. Everybody, please have thicker skin. The nurse thing is an interesting angle. The prosecutor seemed to kind of crap on her take on the whole thing. Again, I will go with his account.
- Back to the topic on hand.... Watch the video and tell me he was raging. Handled poorly, yeah. Not embarrassingly so, IMO. He just got honked off. Sorry, not every guy on a football team is going to be cool calm and collected. That's not real life on a football team or any place of employment. Brandon Phillips was WAYYYYYY worse to Ctrent and it was barely a ripple in the news.
