ACHA Passed the house

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(05-04-2017, 05:28 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The ACA was the most conservative option to increase the number of people with access to health care. It was a scheme thought up by the Heritage Foundation decades ago. The GOP was pissed about it because Obama made it happen. Any option that is thought up that moves health care to a more conservative model is going to result in fewer people with access to health care. Period.

If we want to fix the system, and we should, we need to make it so people can actually afford health care, not make it worse for them.

Increase the number of people with access to health care by burdening everyone else who couldn't afford it. That's why so many young healthy people opted out of the ACA and the ACA promptly went into financial troubles. Young people are generally poor and healthy. Neither of those equate to wanting to pay the burden for other people.

I don't care who thought up the scheme. I don't care about liberals/conservatives and who put it into play. It's forcing a majority of people to purchase something they didn't want/didn't need/had already at a more affordable price in order to help a minority of people.

(05-04-2017, 05:29 PM)fredtoast Wrote: 1.  Anecdotal evidence is meaningless.  You have to look at the entire country instead of just a bhandful of your friends.

2.  A lot of people have claimed health care went up because of the ACA when the ACA was not the cause at all.  They have no clue what they are talking about, but blame Obama for everything. 

Except when a parent can't afford the copay anymore after decades of being able to because their employer could no longer afford the same coverage as it had in the past.

Or when multiple friends lose hours on their jobs so they are under the healthcare requirement threshold, and on top of that then have to pay money into a program they neither want nor need.

I know you live in a world where you think the rich people are paying for poor people, but it's the middle/lower middle class who end up with the burden. People shouldn't be burdened with paying for other people's decisions. It's not their fault that someone else decided to live off a diet of Pepsi and candy and got diabetes. It's not their fault that they were responsible and used contraceptives while other people pump out two or three children they can't afford.

That's how we got to a point where my generation is going to get screwed by having to pay into a Social Security system that they will never see the benefits for.