05-05-2017, 10:12 AM
(05-04-2017, 05:35 PM)masterpanthera_t Wrote: Hasty and impulsive statements don't shed a good light on his leadership qualities nor do they show an ability to thoroughly think through an issue. Nor does it show an understanding of the consequences of statements when they're made without consideration. The fervor with which the initial accusation was made doesn't match dismissive attempts to squelch discussion on that topic now by the media. At the least, his statements erode away any credibility he may have left with independents taking a wait and see approach.
I guess the question that needs to be asked here is how much do people actually care about what Trump said about Obama? A common statement made by people who voted for Trump was that they wanted to see what he could do for them and their families and didn't care all that much about his personal life and all the crap going around in the media about what he said about "whoever". They cared about him "shaking up Washington".
This whole Obama thing is really a non-issue in my opinion. It's an issue in the sense that he accused Obama of a crime, but I don't believe it's an issue in the sense that those who voted for Trump really care so much that this challenges his credibility as a president. I believe Trump is going to be judged on what he actually gets done as president and issues like this will not be at the forefront.
I feel this is the very thing the left failed to understand during the election and fail to understand now. People didn't vote for Trump because he was a really nice guy that said really nice things. He was a guy that said he'd get things done, and voters took the chance on that.
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How silly to judge a person on what he actually says when instead we can play pretend that he meant something different.
Very convenient in this case since pretending keeps him from looking like an idiot.
So you honestly think Trump literally meant he doesn't stand by anything? Interesting.
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It's very telling that is the best you could offer. But, I'm not sure you meant it. I think you're just saying that to avoid saying something else which could be used against you.
Well, not really, but sure. I find it strange that you're sitting here acting like that if Trump was a real man he'd stand by everything even when the things he wants have no chance of actually passing without some kind of revision. And if Trump were a real man, he'd keep up his offensive attacks even in the face of newly learned information and political opposition that causes him to compromise. You would rather have Trump act like a big baby and fold his arms and stomp his foot in the ground and say "I'm standing by what I said no matter what"..... which would amount to literally nothing getting done. This is a case of damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
