05-12-2017, 01:39 PM
(05-12-2017, 10:23 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Did you point out someone was biased? Yes. So it does have something to do with what you are saying. If you don't want to discuss bias then just stop talking about bias.
I'm just pointing out your bias. And the reason I am pointing out your bias is . . .
So by pointing out your bias your arguments lose their meaningfulness or persuavieness, at least according to you.
Anything you have an opinion on. To quote you again, what your biased about is irrelevant . . .
So even though we all have biases, having biases is irrelevant (according to you.) Apparently, pointing out other's bias, which as we have already established is a given with everybody, is the relevant part because it reduces the meaningfulness of the other's argument.
Again, what you're biased about is "irrelevant." I'm just pointing your bias out because it reduces the meaningfulness of your argument; your argument, not mine.
My contention is pointing out someone's bias is nothing more than pointing a finger. You have a bias, I have a bias, everyone has a bias, and we all know everyone has a bias, and we all know that we all know that everyone has a bias. So what is the point? Why do it? Why tell someone, "At least you have an open mind," when you unequivocally mean the opposite? With the specific comment that started this discussion, it is another passive aggressive insult in a pattern of passive aggressive insults meant to convey to the other person they aren't open minded at all, but rather they are biased. But, we already know everybody is biased. To put it in plain English, it is nothing more than a dig at the other person. Some people just aren't honest enough to admit what they're doing.
You're missing the entire point that I'm not the one who said "At least you have an open mind". The fact that you keep quoting it as if it's something I said is making absolutely no sense to me.
You're also taking my comment about people being biased being irrelevant out of context, perhaps because it seemed unclear what I was saying.
When I said everyone being biased is irrelevant, I was saying it is irrelevant to the point that I'm making which is that everyone being biased isn't what matters in the context of specific arguments. What matters is what theyre being biased about and how that plays into what they are arguing.
I find it extremely strange that you out of all people are trying to play the saint card. You of all people are talking about "passive agressiveness". Please spare me the self righteousness. If you're going to hold an argument to a set of standards but not hold a comparable argument to those same set of standards then you need to re-evaluate your argument.
This has nothing to do with finger pointing and everything to do with adressing unfairness when it present itself in an argumentative environment. You're honestly going to sit here and tell me that if you were having a discussion with someone and they were blatantly being biased that you wouldn't call them out on it? Aren't you the same person that always seems to be playing the game of "gotcha"?
Youre arguing something different than what I am putting forth. I am not pointing out bias to show that someone is a biased person. I'm pointing out the bias to show there is unfairness in the argument.
