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Why we need Trump and Putin to get along
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(07-07-2017, 11:09 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://m.spiegel.de/international/world/a-1156296.html

Democrats and their fake news friends have tried to strain relationships with Russia since they lost.   The reality is that only a fool wouldn't want us to get along with Russia.   

Lucie you are addressing two different groups of people here.

1. Trumpsters who don't believe Russia meddled in the US elections and there is a massive conspiracy between the MSM and Obama deep state operatives in our intel services who are pushing a false story to delegitimize Trump.  And

2. The rest of the world, who believe that Putin directed interference in the US election to favor Trump, while Russian operatives had numerous contacts with the Trump campaign.

For group 2, Russia strained relations with the US by invading the Ukraine, supporting Assad in Syria, and then disrupting our presidential elections. Democrats and the MSM did not force Putin to do this, and so they are not the cause of the strain. This group now fears the inexperienced Trump will bend over now and give Putin what he wants--removal of sanctions imposed by Obama and Congress and the global-level respect Obama denied Russia as a bad international actor. This group thinks the US needs to stand up to Russia, for its own security and Europe's. Trump's mysterious inability to criticize Putin's actions or agree with his own intel services leaves him a poor match for a former KGB agent who has been acting on the world stage for 17 years.

Unless you are only addressing other Trumpsters, I am guessing you want to convince people in group 2 that group 1's narrative is the correct one.

What would "getting along with Russia" look like in your view? Are you asking the rest of us to forget what our intel services and best news  sources tell us about the attack on our election? How would you convince us either that Russia did not attack us or that, even if they did, we should not make a big deal out of the security threat? What should we expect from an Alpha leader?
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RE: Why we need Trump and Putin to get along - Dill - 07-07-2017, 01:03 PM

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