Proper Steps to MAGA?

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(07-20-2017, 05:31 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: You can't fix something that's inherently flawed. It relies on young people to do the bulk of the paying, but young people don't want to do the bulk of the paying, so they opt out of it because the penalty is simply cheaper than buying something you don't want/need/use.

You could theoretically ramp up the penalty, or made enrollment mandatory, increasing exactly how much you're bending over the young and middle class with your robbery.

Then they can be paying for healthcare they don't want/don't need/can't even afford to use with the deductibles, and paying into social security that they likely either will never see, or won't see anywhere near as much as they put into it.

Government ponzi schemes don't work.

Hmmm... that's the American take. I mean nothing by that, just saying. Americans sure seem to think in more individual terms.

Health care is complicated, sure. Social values (in lack of a better word) play some role in it. In Europe, we grew up with something like a contract of the generations, and young people pretty much accept that social standards demand certain expenses, even when they might not be the beneficiaries of said spending they have to contribute to. But then again, everyone has parents, friends who don't do well... etc. A society being taken care of in terms of health does, in my experience, work a bit better and more friction-free. Feeling "robbed", to me, sounds a bit egocentrical. If everyone pays a certain fraction of his salary, no one will go bancrupt because of health insurance. But it sure is a solidarity concept, and not to be cute but that thought doesn't seem popular in the US. But the result you get out of this way of thinking doesn't look particularly compelling for a society as a whole. From the outside, that is.

Plus, accidents can happen quickly. I guess I'm still on the spending side of things overall, but when I cut a nerve in my hand, I sure was glad that I was covered. Being healthy can change suddenly for everyone, no matter how young and vital one feels. 

Single payer seems like a viable option, or "Medicaid for all", and Sanders is quite right in saying that every wealthy nation except the US does offer similar services to their citizens. I understand that's a tough sell in the US, so OK. But a public option would be a distinct possibility to cap raising premiums.

But be that as it may - there are certainly more options than just full repeal or letting Obamacare fail. I insist on you being a bit too hasty with your judgment there :)