08-29-2017, 05:19 PM
(08-29-2017, 04:56 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Then why did you say classic liberals weren't protesting? That is a false statement. Also, you make a lot of assumptions about the people that are getting violent.
Indeed, they are not the same. However, it has been demonstrated that there is a large amount of ignorance on these boards with regards to all of these terms and movements that have occurred in our history and how the terms relate to current political groups and your usage of those terms and the way you have described some of these groups falls into that, as well. It's not an attack to say this, so hopefully it won't be taken as such, but there are a lot of misrepresentations of ideologies from a lot of posters on here, yourself included, and from both the right and the left side of the spectrum.
I would only say that we should be more cautious in our application of labels to groups when they actually may not apply. This is something all of us are guilty of, myself included when my emotions were higher than usual during the Charlottesville incident.
I don't think there were good people on both sides. I don't consider racists, white nationalists, neo-Confederates, Nazis, white supremacists, etc., to be good people. Whether or not they got violent, I don't consider them to be good people.
There were many instances of anti-Obama violence that occurred against his supporters. Don't kid yourself on this one. This is absolutely an escalation, but it isn't out of nowhere. This has been a ramp-up, not a climb up a steep rock face.
Not the same thing. One is a Nazi, the other is sympathetic to them in some way.
1. Never said that.... we were speaking about violent protestors. Peaceful protesting is irrelevant when we are discussing the violence at a protest.
2. If you think I am describing these terms incorrectly then feel free to straighten me out.
3. So there was no one there who just respects historical monuments or enjoys free speech? The act like the only good people there were on protestor side is disengenuous.
4. Post some anti obama violence that is in the same realm as antifa
5. You better educate your fellow leftist posters on that fact. And defending someone's right to say dumb things doesn't make you a Nazi sympathizer.
