09-26-2017, 05:02 PM
(09-26-2017, 05:00 PM)Wyche Wrote: Manning was carried to a Super Bowl by his defense and didn't even play all season his last year....his stats from that game:
"13-of-23 for 141 yards with one interception while being sacked five times, scoring his only passing points with 3:08 left in the fourth quarter when he connected with wide receiver Fowler for a two-point conversion, which ended up being the final pass of his career."
Look at Eli Manning this year with a shit oline and only one viable weapon. Eli is really a rich man's Dalton. He did make some plays down the stretch, and a dude made a miracle grab off his helmet.
Russell Wilson is a mobile, slightly better version of Dalton. Good defense and a stout run game paved his way.
Flacco, got lucky. Another very good defense, and run game.
Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Pig Pen, and early Peyton are very rare talents. Apples to oranges. Interestingly enough, Pig Pen had one of the worst rated Super Bowls in history early in his career when he was carried to a title with The Bus and Steel Curtain Light.
It can be done, and is not as rare as some may think. Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, the guys above, Jim Plunkett, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, hell....Terry Bradshaw, Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, and probably a few I am forgetting (like Elway in his last season) have all been helped immensely by good lines, good defenses, or good run games (or a combo of two or all three in some cases like the Skins). Those guys are far from All-World.
That said, yeah, not happening here, because the dumbasses pulling the strings here don't realize this.
Plus, you need a running game too. We haven't had that in a decade.
I'd take Broncos Manning, Wilson, or Eli Manning over Dalton. No question.
While good, our defense tends to wilt in big games too. It's hard to put your finger on what causes this. Costly penalties. Giving up big runs. Etc.
