Corker v Trump

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(10-10-2017, 12:09 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Yeah, that is something I think a lot of people missed on the Alabama situation. He endorsed the establishment candidate, likely based on pressure from those around him. Trump's ideologically aligned with the one that won much more so than the guy he endorsed.

That, and the GOP voters are still behind him. I saw an 88-20 approval split on a Pew post recently, where 88% of Rep voters approve, and only 20% of Dems. And the base in the Midwest is more approving of him.

So yeah, lots being missed when looking at this by people on the left.

(10-10-2017, 12:35 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The movement is frustration with the status quo on the right. It can't be about trying to pull the GOP to a more conservative path, which is what the Tea Party thing was about, because Trump isn't a conservative. So the real unifying theme between those two, and I think we do have to look at them together because without the TP movement, we wouldn't have the AR, is just anti-establishment thought. The movement is bigger than him, and he can be cast aside if he makes the wrong steps.

The bulk of Republican voters are going to vote for the Republican no matter what. Same goes with Democrats for Democratic candidates. The AR or anti establishment bloc of the party was seemingly a plurality in the 2016 primary, but not a majority. So does a situation ever exist when a single challenger in the 2020 primary can come forward and unite more of the party together under effective leadership?

At some point, Trump will run out of Obama executive orders to nullify and the lack of any significant legislation will make it hard to deny that very little progress towards any stated campaign goals or agendas is taking place. Unless he manufactures a war, what exactly do you run on?