11-21-2017, 03:52 PM
(11-21-2017, 10:55 AM)Wyche Wrote: For the last three weeks (the weeks that have seen the worst T.O.P. numbers), the opposition has had long, run the ball down our throats, opening drives/drives in the first quarter/half. That has nothing to do with lousy offensive production. The defense isn't gassed their first trip onto the field. Both units are not very good, is the reality. The defense CANNOT stop the run, we CANNOT run the ball. Maybe Minter was a bigger asset than some realize.
100% this. The offense is doing the defense no favors, but the defense can't get off the field (even early in games) and is near bottom in turnovers forced, both of which are causing fewer possessions for the offense. I can't think of the right word, but they're both having a negative affect on each other that has kind of snowballed.
(11-21-2017, 12:11 PM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: If we throw out the 31 points scored against Cleveland, the Cincinnati offense is putting up a putrid 13.67 points per game. I originally thought it was 15.33 points per game until I factored in two touchdowns scored by the defense: William Jackson III and Carlos Dunlap.
If we throw out the first 2 games under Zampese, we're averaging 18.3 points per game (with the defensive TDs subtracted).
(11-21-2017, 12:38 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I think the defense has been pretty decent overall, but they've given up 114 of their 199 point in the first two quarters.
Maybe they're more worn down in the 1st half.
It's almost as if the offense isn't completely to blame for the defensive performance.
(11-21-2017, 03:02 PM)bengalsturntup5532 Wrote: Well it's a offensive league now,the rules are just set up for offenses to score. Let's go back to the Bengals division game 2005. You would say the Steelers had a good defense wouldn't you? They couldn't stop our offense from scoring. And we couldn't atop them until the 3rd drive
We played 2 games against the Steelers. In the other game, they held us to 13 points and Palmer to a 53.8 passer rating. So it's a little inaccurate to say they couldn't stop our offense.
(11-21-2017, 03:21 PM)3wt Wrote: This
I'm tired of hearing how our defense is good till it gets gassed. They are not playing well when they're fresh. The line gets pushed around and taken out of their gaps and almost no one can tackle. It's embarrassing to watch.
And I have to agree with Bfine on Mixon. I think he's way overrated. He can get around the edge for a big guy, but I think his vision is really poor. Should have taken Cook... or an offensive lineman.
We don't seem to have a good long range assessment of talent. There will be a number of good backs in this draft - and folks have been talking about them since game 1.
Visions of what? Defensive linemen dancing in the backfield?
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