26 teams have at least 5 playoff wins since our last playoff win...

[*bengalfan74*]

(12-12-2017, 09:31 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: It's funny you blame Marvin for being a poor coach but not Mike Brown. How many owners would give a coach who is 0-7 in the playoffs a chance to try for chance #8?

Bottom line: The organization tolerates mediocrity from the top down.

It's the same reason Bodine has a job...year after year. Because it costs money to replace him and he's signed cheap.

It's why they reportedly offered Zeitler $5.5 million a year after DeCastro signed for $10 million a year.

You don't think it demoralized the players when Zeitler was low-balled AND Whitworth left? Whitworth - the captain who has only played for the Bengals...left?

The same reason Alexander still has a job despite this team not being able to run the ball. They tolerate mediocrity.

When the top levels of an organization tolerate mediocrity...it infiltrates other levels.

Marvin isn't the cause...he's the symptom. And you act like Marvin told the team to shutdown against the Packers and Steelers. A lot of those losses is on the players.

You'll see when we have a new HC.

Mike Brown has a very long lists of shortcomings and in the end is the person holding the stick that stirs this team, we know that. And I have serious doubts anyone can win here while he's still got the stirring stick.

But having said that:

A boat load of blame lies directly at Marvin Lewis's feet as well !

Mike isn't pulling the plug on the running game in the first quarter. Mike isn't playing not to lose with 3 minutes to go until halftime. Mike isn't trying to sit on 6 point leads in the middle of the 2nd quarter. Mike isn't totally botching timeouts and challenge flags more often than not. Mike is not responsible for Marvin having his arms folded across his chest on sidelines with deer in the headlights look while getting your butt whipped. Mike isn't responsible for never having a plan B. Mike isn't responsible for getting waxed in 2nd half scoring way to regularly. One could go on and on